Show Details on Bootup

[Sturla Holm Hansen]

Your line of argument is so typical for a computer-litterate person.
(Me being one of them....)
In all practical sense it doesn't matter for the computer-ilitterate if
he see's all the kernel messages or not, but it looks scary.
And no, nobody want's to drive a car without knowing how, but most
people would like to drive a car without being told what the specific
parts of the engine do to make it move......
Sure people should learn how to use it, keep that attitude and people
will keep windows....

Sturla

On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 07:09, JonShado wrote:
> I find this conversation very interesting. I, personally, just changed
> the runlevel at system start to level 3. And i don't really see how
> hiding what's REALLY going on is going to help the computer illiterate
> people more. I'd say the more a computer does things on it's own and
> hides what it's doing the more problems you run into. Example:
> Windows. 
>  
> Computer illiterate people who want to use linux should learn how.
> Computer illiterate people who want to use Windows should also
> learn how. Just because Windows is "easier" to use doesn't make them
> less computer illiterate. 
>  
> I don't see too many people saying "I want to use a car, but i don't
> want to learn how, i just want to get in and I want the car to know
> where i want to go and how to get me there without me doing anything
> but sitting and watching all the pretty colors."
>  
> Anyway, just change the runlevel and login and type 'startx'.
>  
> ===Michael 
>  
> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:45:27 -0700
> From: Rob Park <rbpark at ualberta.ca>
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Show Details on Bootup
> Reply-To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> 
> Fritz Whittington wrote:
> > Agreed.  Hopefully, he will respond.  [Except that in my case, the
> "show 
> > details" in rhgb is *more* ugly, not less :-) ]
> 
> Actually, I kind of like rhgb, with the details hidden or not. I think
> it's slick. And I think that rhgb is one of the things that linux
> really 
> needs to make inroads on the desktop. The kernel's boot procedure
> needs 
> an option to disable all normal output (ie, only print anything if
> it's 
> an error, otherwise be quiet -- much like how rhgb shows no details at
> first but will automatically go into detailed mode if one of the 
> bootscripts fails). Then the linux boot procedure will basically have
> no 
> confusing text scrolling all over the place, it would all be very
> slick 
> and professional, and more "computer-illiterate" type people will be 
> able to use linux (compare with the WinXP bootup procedure).
>