"challenge response" to mailing list posts is pointless & rude!

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook jtwdyp at ttlc.net
Tue Jun 1 13:40:04 UTC 2004


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I did NOT email Bruce Morrow, I posted a followup on:
gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general, which sent it to the mailing list:
fedora-list at redhat.com
Which inserted MANY mailing list header lines and Resent it to it's 
subscribers ...including Bruce Morrow...

I've heard of one challenge response system smart enough to avoid the BAD 
behavior of sending such challenge responses to indirect senders...
http://www.tmda.net/

Here is a quote concerning the difference between TMDA and the not so
revolutionary SpamRival.com service:

=> Subject: Re: NOREPLY?
=> Newsgroups: gmane.mail.spam.tmda.user
=> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:31:15 +0000
=> 
=> Jon Nathan 
=> 
=> > What sort of messages trigger a NOREPLY action?  Mailing list
=> > messages do - anything else?
=> 
=>   bounce
=>   doublebounce
=>   envelope senders that start with 'mailer-daemon' or 'majordomo'
=>   Auto-Submitted header with contents 'auto-generated' or'auto-replied'
=>   mailing list headers:
=>     List-Id
=>     List-Help
=>     List-Subscribe
=>     List-Unsubscribe
=>     List-Post
=>     List-Owner
=>     List-Archive
=>     Mailing-List
=>     X-Mailing-List
=>     X-Ml-Name
=>   Precedence header with contents 'bulk', 'junk' or 'list'
=>   response would be > MAX_AUTORESPONSES_PER_DAY
=> 
=> > Is there any way to control the behavior of this action?
=> 
=> No.  It's not really an action, in the sense of filter file actions.
=> The code simply tries to identify situations in which it would be
=> pointless or even rude to respond and notes in the log that it didn't
=> reply.
=> 
=> Tim
=> 
=> _____________________________________________
=> tmda-users mailing list (tmda-users <at> tmda.net)
=> http://tmda.net/lists/listinfo/tmda-users


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To: "jtwdyp at ttlc.net" <jtwdyp at ttlc.net>
Message-ID: <200406010149247.SM01028 at psmtp.com>
From: Bruce Morrow <PPVREANNKOOADRECA at mail.spamrival.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 00:47:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Re: Grub Reinstall Problem!!!

Hello,

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