FC1 -> FC2 Update: DISASTER!!!
Dan Thurman
danthurman at postman.net
Fri Jun 4 16:48:27 UTC 2004
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:07:20 +0100, Jonathan Rawle wrote
> Dan Thurman wrote:
>
> > I would have expected that SOMEWHERE that GNOME or respective
> > upgrades programs should have taken care of installation issues
> > like this so that less geek people can continue their business
> > without grief. Do we ALL have to become linux experts to fix things
> > that otherwise could be taken care of? I don't have TIME to read the
> > RTFM's to get a CLUE where I should start when things go wrong.
> >
>
> I agree that these things should be taken care of by Gnome or KDE
> the first time you log in after an upgrade. (In fact, I think Gnome
> does move the old contents of your desktop etc.) This is an issue
> for Gnome and KDE developers, I guess. I note that updates to KDE
> aren't distributed in the normal Fedora update channels, despite
> there being official packages. This is to avoid such issues -
> experienced users can download the packages and sort them out.
>
> At very least, the Fedora release notes should warn that certain
> files need to be removed after an upgrade.
>
> > I would *expect* linux to be a *PROFESSIONALLY* built product with
> > performance tuning, sound configured *automatically*, etc., etc.,
> > but hey... someone has to get paid to support the otherwise lack of
> > professionalism? Don't get me wrong. This is my wish list. If Linux
> > is ever going to replace M$ as the desktop, then professionalism should
> > be expected and required. That is why M$ wins hands down (never mind
> > the other well-known secret OS hooks, secret snooping, or vaporware
> > program promises or other "sins" M$ did and perhaps continues to do.)
> >
>
> I'd like to know how well Windows works after an upgrade,
> particularly if there are lots of users on the system with non-
> standard configurations. Most Windows users NEVER install or upgrade
> their operating system - they just buy a computer with it pre-
> loaded. If your computer had been supplied like that, and you hadn't
> tried to upgrade it, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
I know for a fact that upgrades are handled VERY WELL. M$ is to be
commended for this in fact. I have done complete updates with M$ MANY
times and it works well. However, there are times that reinstallation
of the application programs have to be reinstalled. I had to do this
because the .exe and other files were virus corrupted. But for the most
part, M$ did a DAMN GOOD JOB in regards to updates and upgrades. The only
thing I *hate* M$ for is their licensing and pricing structures (and
other things) but that is fairly understandable when YOU have to PAY :-p
** DISCLAIMER:
I can only vouch for myself for my opinions about M$. Note: I do NOT
work for M$, do *not* have any connections/affiations with M$, directly
or indirectly and my opinion are based on my personal experiences.
Kudos for M$ and Kudos for Linux/FC as they both have their plusses
and minuses.
>
> There are already more commercial Linux distributions that you could
> try if you don't feel sufficiently "geeky" to handle Fedora. The
> idea of this project is to develop a stable operating system that
> will one day form RHEL distributions, and probably a new RH consumer-
> oriented product.
>
> But at present, if you use Fedora you have to be prepared for a
> little bit of tinkering. The best way to find out how to do things
> is to read these lists, and to contribute yourself. You can also
> help by submitting bug reports when something doesn't work - how
> about listing the fact that Gnome config files aren't sorted out
> after an upgrade? They will get fixed eventually - the same can't be
> said of Microsoft.
>
> Linux gets better all the time. FC2 is the most stable yet in the RH
> line in my opinion, and will only continue to grow. Just be patient!
>
> Jonathan
>
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