[FC2] PCMCIA network cards starting on boot

[Denny Figuerres]

IMHO this is a good example of where Linux fails for the "average user"

The user wants to 
"Turn on the computer and use it"
And based on that believes that 
"Start on boot" is the right thing to ask the computer to do.

There may be technical issues with the order of things starting but IMHO a
normal "user" should not have to know much if anything about the details
that make it work. And in this case I will include root as a "normal user".

Sure if you are hacking a new config or trying to get a new device to work
you may need to or want to know the details but...




> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hooper [mailto:whooperhsd3 at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:47 PM
> To: fedora-list at redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [FC2] PCMCIA network cards starting on boot
> 
> 
> Scot L. Harris said:
> > On Sun, 2004-06-13 at 15:11, William Hooper wrote:
> >> Scot L. Harris said:
> >>
> >>> Sounds like this has been a problem for awhile now.  So far there are
> >>>  workarounds for this but not a solution IMHO.
> >>
> >> Setting "ONBOOT=no" isn't a workaround, it is the correct
> >> configuration.
> >>
> >> -- William Hooper
> >
> > I call that a workaround.  It is counter intuitive to set something NOT
> to
> > run on boot and yet have it run on boot.
> [snip]
> 
> The network subsystem isn't responsible for starting PCMCIA network cards,
> otherwise hot plugging cards wouldn't work.  It may be counter-intuitive,
> but it is not a bug.  Feel free to file it in bugzilla, but I see a number
> of them complaining about it marked "NOTABUG".
> 
> --
> William Hooper
> 
>