New "Grip" question

Robin Laing Robin.Laing at
Wed Jun 16 14:39:58 UTC 2004

T. 'Nifty New Hat' Mitchell wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 09:38:45PM -0500, John Thompson wrote:
>>I just installed "grip" (3.2.0) on my FC1 system.  I just tried ripping
>>some tracks from a CD, and grip seemed very happy and busy all the
>>while, finished without any errors -- *BUT* -- where the devil does it
>>put the tracks?  I've searched my whole system and can't see that it
>>actually wrote anything to the disk after all the work it did.  Nor can
>>I see any configuration option to tell grip where you want it to write
>>its output.
>>Any clues welcome...
> In grip click on Config --> Rip
>     You will see a line "Rip file format" that looks something like 
>     /b/mp3/%A/%d/%n.wav  which places all the files in /b/mp3
>     in directories by %A (artist) etc.  Yours will be different.
> In grip click on Config --> Encode
>     You will see a line "Encode file format",
>     that contains a line sort of like: /b/mp3/%A/%d/%n.ogg
>     I believe that the default would be $HOME/ogg for
>     when oggenc is used to encode files.   Yours will be different.
> These and other configuration values are saved in a text file in your
> home directory ".grip".  See: $HOME/.grip
>      $ grep fileformat .grip
>      ripfileformat /b/mp3/%A/%d/%n.wav
>      mp3fileformat /b/mp3/%A/%d/%n.ogg
>      m3ufileformat ~/ogg/%A-%d.m3u
> Remember that grip often runs with two passes.  First a rip with a
> tool, commonly cdparanoia, then it optionally can transform that .wav
> file to another more compact format.  The default plugin encoder is
> oggenc for ogg encoding.  It is possible to find mp3 encoders on the
> net and other encoders too.  Each encoder was developed for a set of
> reasons.
> Sadly mp3 technology is not "free" so none is included in FCn.  Ogg is
> a good encoder.  If your player does not support it, request an update
> from the vendor or purchase a different one.
> I am speculating, but, if your player came with encoder and ripping
> software for mp3 I believe that you have a license to run equivalent
> mp3 software on equivalent/ compatible hardware.  Even if you have to
> find, download and compile it.  But I am not an attourney...  Do look
> at the fine print on the eula including patent numbers hidden here and
> there.
> Me I use ogg.

Future MP3 codecs are going to include DRM as well.  One article that 
I read was that it will prevent sharing between players but I find 
that hard to believe.

Robin Laing

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