Dear Fedora Community, what do you want?

Rui Miguel Seabra rms at
Fri Jun 4 12:19:50 UTC 2004

On Fri, 2004-06-04 at 15:21 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
> Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
> > It seems you are the one with the extreme stand, since not only you
> > invented words I never wrote, but also since you see them is such an
> > extremist and unreal form.
> What extreme stand? I was not the one who told others to avoid DJB 
> software even though some of it is in the public domain.

No, I told other to avoid using Dan's software like qmail or tinyDNS
which are not in the public domain (or at least last time I looked).

>  You, however, 
> have told everybody that they should use only GPL software or 
> alternatives or what not.

Never. That is a lie. I dare you prove otherwise.
I've said that people should use Free Software, but to be Free Software
you don't need to use the GNU GPL.

Apache is Free Software, although it now is incompatible with the GNU
GPL as it currently stands (note that the FSF only comments that there
is an added restriction relating to patents and since the GPL doesn't
allow any more restrictions they are incompatible).

> > I never said the drivers should be GPL'ed. That would probably break the
> > license of xorg's x11. I said they should use the Lesser GPL, which
> > protects the interest of both parts. There is a quid pro quod with the
> > Lesser GPL'ed software so no competitor can really abuse that much, and
> > it benefits users.
> > 
> > Tsk, you ignore people without even giving a minimal effor to understand
> > what they write... is it that I write such bad english that it is
> > impossible to understand?
> Your LGPL part came did not start off LGPL for drivers.

No. I will be happy with Free Software drivers that use a Free Software
license that is compatible both with xorg x11 and the GNU GPL.

Advising Lesser GPL for drivers is a matter of thinking on fair benefits
for the hardware manufacturers.

> > Why do you hate people so much you'd advise them to wear shackles?
> hmm, i did not advise them to wear shackles. What's the problem with 
> using what's provided/available even if it is not under GPL (ok software 
> only now)  or LGPL (software + drivers or whatever)

You are aware of a little thing called copyright law, and laws recently
approved in the EU that allow one to see his house raided by private
police without a warrant on alledged violations of copyright, right?

If you use only Free Software, you're safe from that. Unless software
patents come accross, and software patents have to be taken down.

We're trying to do that, in Europe, even before they ever get born.

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