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Re: Fedora Core 3 Wishlist



On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 01:58:04PM -0400, Tom Diehl wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, Paul Duffy wrote:
> 
> > On Sunday 06 Jun 2004 17:00, Sean Estabrooks wrote:
> > > Because you insist on using proprietary, encumbered technologies that
> > > would make RedHat vulnerable to legal action if they distributed them.
> > 
> > As they do in the kernel source they provide.
> 
> Think binaries. That is what matters. Do not ask me why I am not a lawyer.

Well, xmms source had mp3 support removed.

> I do not know. Ask YOUR lawyer. If your lawyer says this is wrong take it up
> wth Red Hat's legal department, not this list. Red Hat's legal dept. opinion
> is all that matters wrt inclusion of NTFS in the distro. Nothing else will
> get it included.
> 
> > Now, if you can adopt a less patronising attitude (as some of us don't really 
> > have an option when it comes to not installing Windows and it doesn't always 
> > let you format for FAT32 on install) and tell me how including it in the 
> > kernel source but not the kernel makes a legal difference that would be much 
> > appreciated.
> 
> Ummm, lets see NTFS source is closed. In the USA Reverse engineering is
> illegal (Think DMCA).

That's not true. Well, not globally anyway.

> Red Hat is a USA based Corporation, therefore subject
> to the laws of the USA. Is this clear enough for you or do I need to continue
> explaining the obvious?

Well, I'm not in the USA. Couldn't Fedora have an International section?

> If you really need this included in an Open Source
> distro why not get M$ to open source the NTFS file system.

Not enough. The problem here is in the patent system.

> I am sure if they
> did that everyone would then include it in their distro. Until then if you
> must use this crap then you will have to recompile the modules.
> 
> This is my 1 and only response to this thread. If you need a further
> explaination, try reading the archives. If people would at least try reading
> the archives b4 posting the traffic on this and most lists would be greatly
> reduced.

True, it gets tiresome. Could an automatic reply system for such usual
cases be implemented?

Regards,
Luciano Rocha

-- 
Consciousness: that annoying time between naps.



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