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Re: FC2 doubtful quality?



On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:11:33 -0400 (EDT)
"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday mindspring com> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Andy Green wrote:
> 
> > ... Only RH folks can do this because of the project structure.  Some 
> > people who do great work helping on the ml are threfore finding 
> > themselves becoming slightly shrill and embattled fanboys, equating 
> > acknowledging the problem they cannot do anything about with heresy 
> > against the project and the great RH people who lead it.

There is no problem reporting problems.  In fact I see many people
getting help and having problems resolved on this list.   People who 
report problems and ask for help generally get it.   Those who become shrill
and start freaking out because things aren't perfect are given appropriate
answers as well, just probably not the sympathetic RedHat bashing
they were hoping for.

> there was one other point that i thought was worth making -- it didn't 
> really fit in the original post, but it's appropriate here, i think.
> 
> there's a constant emphasis that fedora core is *not* red hat -- that FC 
> is a state-of-the-art, leading edge, way out there, community-based, use 
> at your own risk distro meant partially as a proving ground for new 
> technologies that will, someday, find their way into red hat's stable, 
> enterprise-level offerings.
> 
> uh, yeah.  and the last time i looked, 69% of americans still thought 
> saddam hussein had something to do with 9/11.
> 
> the point being that, regardless of what you tell people and regardless of 
> the reality, a lot of folks are going to associate fedora core with red 
> hat, and their experiences with FC are undoubtedly going to color their 
> perception of red hat.  it may not be fair, but it's going to happen.

Well that is really an issue for RedHat to decide.  It's nice of you to
be concerned but i'm sure the folks at RedHat are smart enough
to deal with this one way or another.

> 
> so the constant refrain of "if you don't like it, don't use it." is going 
> to be interpreted by some as a sign that *red hat* is not really 
> interested in their business or their satisfaction.  and this is something 
> that red hat might want to be just a wee bit concerned about.  in this 
> case, image really might be everything.

That is why it is appropriate to explain to people the nature of the Fedora
project, its relationship to RedHat and adjust expectations so that
Fedora can fill the role it was designed for.  We don't need another Suse
or Gentoo, or Debian.  What you're describing is closer to RHL which was 
EOL'd for a reason.   In fact it was terminated because it had bigger problems 
than the potential problems you point out here with Fedora.

Cheers,
Sean



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