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Re: FC2 doubtful quality?



Dell 600sc..............$400
Rack mount case.........$ 82
Fedora Core 1 ..........$  0

Being able to use it as an every day server running DHCP, Sendmail, DNS,
Apache, FTP, Big Brother,and without a hitch...............

priceless...............

;-)

Don Dupy
Systems Administrator
Maxxrad PC Services
http://www.maxxrad.net
email: fedora maxxrad net

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, Jeremy Brown wrote:

> Andy Green wrote:
>
> > Well I also noted this, although to be fair Dexter wrote a good and mild
> >
> >reply, but I see this defensiveness coming from their not being empowered to
> >do anything about the problem.  Only RH folks can do this because of the
> >project structure.
> >
>
> I've seen this topic pop up on the fedora-devel list before, and it
> seems to be a large source of frustration for Fedora contributors.  From
> what I read, for the most part Fedora Core still develops under many of
> the same processes RedHat 9 did (user reports bugs, RedHat software
> developer fixes bugs, releases a new package).  Users can contribute
> fixes via mechanisms like Bugzilla, but this is nothing new either; and
> ideally you want an issue resolved by a user to sit in Bugzilla for as
> little time as possible before being re-integrated into Fedora.
>
> Maybe there needs to be an intermediate package repository, created and
> managed by users.  Some place where "unstable" packages (with
> user-contributed fixes) can reside, before they've been reviewed by
> RedHat software developers and integrated into Fedora proper.  This way
> Fedora users could fix the bugs they care about and get them posted
> without having to bug RedHat people.
>
> >Some people who do great work helping on the ml are
> >threfore finding themselves becoming slightly shrill and embattled fanboys,
> >equating acknowledging the problem they cannot do anything about with heresy
> >against the project and the great RH people who lead it.  So they will not
> >acknowledge the problem and it is easier to talk about how FC is meant to be
> >cutting edge, unstable, not for everyone.
> >
> >
>
> It's not directly related...but I get the impression that a lot of
> people *are* considering using Fedora as a stable, server-oriented Linux
> distribution (gasp).  When you can piece together a fairly decent Linux
> server for $400 or so, it doesn't always make sense to spend $300 on the
> OS to run it; especially if you're strapped for cash (small business, or
> not-for-profit entity, for example).  I have the feeling a lot of people
> at one time used RedHat Personal on a lot of these systems to fill the
> need for a cheap, reliable Linux OS, and now these people are using
> Fedora because they don't have the money for RHEL.
>
> I realize that RedHat has very little to gain by ensuring Fedora's
> stability for these sorts of customers (after all, they want paying
> customers, and you can't blame them), but it would be nice if the
> community could fill this gap.  For example, some sort of
> community-driven organization that did QA of packages would be a nice
> step towards offering a Fedora-based, stable, server-flavored OS.
>
> Just some thoughts.
>
> Jeremy
>
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