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Re: Fedora - The Next Generation

On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:50:37PM -0700, T. Nifty Hat Mitchell wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 06:20:10PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> ....
> > > By stripping down the initial install we can fokus on making Fedora better
> > > and we can actually implement some of the suggestions on this list.  Being
> > > based on Fedora it should be easy to add additional components as required,
> > > something like a minimal install and add what you need.
> > ----
> > your fondness or lack thereof of edge / release scheduled distributions
> > is noted but not of interest to fedora. Production servers really should
> > be on 'stable' which is what you want. White Box is what you want...RHEL
> > for free. I would encourage them to use RHEL but if they want stable for
> > free...this is the ticket.
> > 
> > http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/
> > 
> whiteboxlinux, Tao and Centos Linux...
> Think clearly about using a parasitic distribution that takes the source
> of a supported product and deprives the primary support organization
> of it's beer money.

RedHat allows this, so it must feel that either it gains on doing this, or
it isn't losing much (it decided against RH Linux and moved to Fedora for
*some* reasons).

WhiteBox compiles and packages a distribution that is worthwhile to the
community, for nothing. How is it being parasitic?

> If you cannot afford RHEL at the list price call and beg. Then do what
> has to be done.

I paid for RHN in RHL 9 days, when I had a part time job.  Now, I can't
afford RHEL at any price, as my money isn't mine to spend on how I choose.
If I'm intelligent enough to support some linux systems by my own, and I'm
only interested in security updates, freely available from redhat, how can
I justify such expense?

But I'm trying to get the university department to get a subscription, at
least for the Linux Investigation Group here (http://gil.di.uminho.pt/).
But money is running low around here.

And I'm talking about the education subscription, imagine AS at full
price for a couple of machines.

> If you like the added value and twiddle that the secondary packaging
> folks add then sure.
> And yes "parasitic distribution" is a bit loaded.  If you can operate
> in a symbiotic way to the "community" on a secondary distribution have
> at it (IMO).
> In many ways that is what RH is doing.  They are symbiotic in this
> GPL, opensource, GNU, Linux world we are in.
> Free as in speech not as in beer, an interesting concept.

But still free to resell or give away.

Luciano Rocha

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