Font experts - ttf question

Bill Diamond bill at billdiamond.com
Thu May 6 12:35:30 UTC 2004


Michael,
There's a world of difference between a font and a font effect.  If you
want to use the bold or italic with this face, select the actual font
that provides the face.  Don't apply a font effect to the base font.

Bill


On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 13:48, Michael A. Peters wrote:

> Howdy -
> Occasionally I purchase TrueType fonts from myfonts.com
> 
> I found them back when I needed to do something in polytonic greek and
> Linux (at least my distro's) did not have unicode font that supported
> the polytonic greek character set. Anyway - Palatino Linotype was what I
> purchased for that and it works well.
> 
> Since then I have purchased a few others - Helvetica (one of my favorite
> fonts that ships with Mac OS) etc.
> 
> Today they sent me some marketing stuff and I bit, and I purchased a
> really nice looking cursive font called shimmer -
> 
> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bluevinyl/shimmer/
> 
> It is a cursive font - and has both a regular and a bold typeface.
> However - unlike the various ms core web fonts with multiple typefaces,
> this one shows up as two separate entries in the font menus, and I'd
> like to know why - and if that can easily changed so that only one
> typeface is available.
> 
> Here is a screen shot of the font in AbiWord action:
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/mpeters/misc/shimmer.png
> 
> As you can see - selecting "bold" in AbiWord doesn't seem to change a
> thing. My understanding was that there were four typefaces a font could
> have - plain, italic, bold, bold-italic.
> 
> If there were ttf files for each - then you would get excellent results
> when using bold/italic/etc. If there are not ttf files for each, the ttf
> engine would try to emulate the bold/italic effect - which sometimes
> works, sometimes doesn't.
> 
> With shimmer, selecting "bold" doesn't select the bold typeface, or try
> to emulate it. I have not tested this font in Winblows or Mac OS to see
> the behavior there - but it would be nice imho if selecting "bold" used
> the bold font, and one didn't have to select the bold version of the
> font separately.
> 
> Unfortunately I can not distribute the ttf font for testing since I am
> not rich enough to license the fedora list for its use ;)
> 
> But here is (I think) the relative information:
> 
> [mpeters at devel purchased]$ grep "shim" fonts.dir
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso10646-1
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-15
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-microsoft-cp1252
> SHIMMER_.TTF -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso10646-1
> SHIMMER_.TTF -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-15
> SHIMMER_.TTF -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
> SHIMMER_.TTF
> -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-microsoft-cp1252
> 
> [mpeters at devel purchased]$ grep "shim" fonts.scale 
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso10646-1
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-15
> SHIMB___.TTF -macromedia-shimmer
> bold-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-microsoft-cp1252
> SHIMMER_.TTF -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso10646-1
> SHIMMER_.TTF -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
> SHIMMER_.TTF -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-15
> SHIMMER_.TTF
> -macromedia-shimmer-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-microsoft-cp1252
> [mpeters at devel purchased]$ 
> 
> -- 
> Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/
> 
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