Problems with Fedora PHP and Apache

[Jeff Vian]

John Nichel wrote:

> William Hooper wrote:
>
>> Well, since the OP hasn't provided any more info, might as well continue
>> this discussion...
>>
>> John Nichel said:
>>
>>> William Hooper wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Nichel said:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> <gripe>
>>>>> Install from source, not RPM's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>>>
>>> Custom configuration.  And such things as MySQL (the php-mysql rpm is
>>> compiled against the 3.x libraries), but since I use 4.x, I would 
>>> rather
>>> compile with that.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, based on your needs, your blanket recommendation is that everyone
>> should install Apache and PHP from source?  Many people are using the
>> provided RPMs just fine.
>
>
> Not to reopen the "old school vs. new school" debate again, but I feel 
> that if one is going to take on an endouver such as running their own 
> web server, they will be better informed on how to 
> configure/troubleshoot the application if they install from source vs. 
> something like an RPM which is supposed to do it for you.  Not to say 
> that RPM's don't work, but in many instances they don't provide what 
> the user thinks he/she is getting.  Granted, this is a user issue, and 
> not a RPM issue, but we wouldn't see as many, "why doesn't this 
> work..." questions.

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OTOH,  rpm is easier and better than the install method used by M$, and 
is also easier to do a clean uninstall if wanted.

I think the real issue is everyone expects the software to work 
perfectly and this is one point for complaints that everyone sees.  I 
wonder how the total list of problems here compares to the problems with 
a single application on a Windows box.??  Would be interesting to 
compare the statistics.

>
>>> I like how Joe calls it FUD by _some_ members of the PHP community.  
>>> How
>>> about THE member of the PHP community?  I defer to just one of the many
>>> Ramsus Lerdorf responses....
>>>
>>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-general&m=107920318223044&w=2
>>
>>
>>
>> So this is to say that php.net mirror servers are not
>> "production-quality"?  I can understand the PHP developers suggesting
>> Apache1 over Apache2, but to the extent they go it is (as Joe pointed 
>> out)
>> FUD.
>>
>
> "They" are Ramsus Lerdorf, the creator of PHP.  The issue isn't with 
> PHP/Apache2 per se, but with third party modules in PHP and Apache2's 
> multi-threading.  Joe can call it FUD, but if the creator of PHP says 
> it's not to be considered production stable, I take his word over 
> Joe's.  If Joe tells me that Fedora 2 isn't production stable, I'll 
> take his word over someone like Ramsus.
>