: [ FC2 ] ::.. NON-CRITICAL config question.

[Will Backman]

On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 11:41, Yang Xiao wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keven Ring [mailto:keven at mitre.org] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:39 AM
> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases
> > Subject: Re: : [ FC2 ] ::.. NON-CRITICAL config question.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >Hi,
> > >Since you are new to Linux, you might want to run 
> > system-config-network 
> > >and select the NIC that is configured with DHCP, configure 
> > the hostname 
> > >manually, and save
> > >
> > Excellent Advice
> > 
> > > and reboot.
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > <rant>
> > 
> > Why oh Why do we have to suggest to people that rebooting 
> > will take care 
> > of everything.
> > 
> > Folks, just because some major OS must reboot for anything to take 
> > effect, does not mean that this is true of Unix in general, 
> > to include 
> > Linux.
> > 
> > Why I shutdown/reboot unix boxes:
> > 1) I have a new kernel
> > 2) The kernel crashed (ok, this, admitted doesn't happen)
> > 3) Something locked the machine up (kernel, driver, etc)
> > 4) Power/Hardware Failure
> > 5) I take my laptop home
> > 6) I have to run some other OS
> > 
> > Unix machines are generally *not* SINGLE USER MACHINES (there are 
> > exceptions, of course!).
> > 
> > IMO, rebooting in most other circumstances (changing network config, 
> > etc) means that you just don't know how to solve the problem without 
> > rebooting.  Personally, I would rather find the "correct, 
> > intended" way 
> > to solve the problem, rather than resorting to reboots.  In 
> > the "olden 
> > days", it could take HOURS for a system to reboot.....  It wasn't 
> > something you did for fun...
> > 
> > In the case of a network configuration change, try the 
> > following as root 
> > (or sudo, if you prefer)
> > service network stop
> > service network start
> > 
> > or, if you don't like to type,
> > service network restart
> > 
> > If you only want to recycle your ethernet hostname,
> > ifdown eth0
> > ifup eth0
> > 
> > should work fine.  (You may need to restart X, but that is 
> > for entirely 
> > different reasons).
> > 
> > 
> > If you get into the mentality of rebooting like other OS's, then you 
> > might as well reboot whenever you install/update something via 
> > apt/yum/rpm, or when you compile something, etc.
> > 
> > Perhaps a new menu item in Linux, similar to that in Wine/Crossover 
> > Office: Simulate Reboot
> > 
> > </rant>
> > 
> Wow, flames.
> You are right, service network restart should work.
> 
> Yang
> 
And if you really want to get very close to a reboot without ruining
your uptime, try telinit 1 and then telinit 5.