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Re: Escaping



Alexander Dalloz said:
> Am Di, den 04.05.2004 schrieb Bob Shaffer um 15:40:
>
>> I've recently been investigating certain (I won't mention any names)
>> distributions which seem to have an endless life-cycle.  With these
>> distributions, it seems that you can keep all of the software on your
>> system at the most current versions and avoid the process of upgrading
>> your entire O/S when new releases become available.  This seems like the
>> only logical way of handling things to me.  Is it possible to do this
>> with
>> Red Hat/Fedora or, if not, will this be something that will be possible
>> in
>> the future and when?
>
> If you say that other distributions - do you mean just Linux
> distributions or BSB distributions as well? - offer a special kind of
> upgrade path, whatever that should be, you should explain what you mean
> with that to be able to say whether that is possible with Fedora/Redhat
> in the same way.
>
> Either, upgrading is upgrading and always means to get your whole system
> to a higher state and not just updating applications. I do not know any
> Linux distribution that would have a different policy.
>
> So please feed us with details and names.
>
> Alexander
>
>
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I would really like to be able to run a command every month, week, or day
that would upgrade all of the software on my system.  Regardless of what
piece of software or what kind of software it is, I would like to just be
able to upgrade it no questions asked and not have to wait until a new
"release version" becomes available and upgrade everything then.  More
importantly, I think that the whole EOL thing is nonsense.  Every program
that makes up everything in Linux is constantly being improved, having
security vulnerabilities corrected and bugs fixed, etc.  Could I
conceivably be able to set it up yum, up2date, or something so that when
FC2/3/4/etc come out, I'm already running them, or am I doomed to always
have to upgrade only when the new versions are released?

The one distribution that I've been looking at most recently and appears
to have this feature is "Gentoo Linux".  It appears that one could install
their initial release, run a command something like "emerge world", and
soon be running a release more current then their last.  The "releases"
they use are fairly meaningless in this sense - more like snapshots that
are made of the distribution at some interval.  I'm wondering if this is
possible with Fedora and/or if it ever will be.

I like Fedora, but I hate upgrading.  I do way to much customisation with
my system for simply using the "upgrade" option in the installer for every
new release to be a realistic possibility.  In the past I have tried this
and it ends up creating more work than just backing everything up and
doing a clean install followed by many hours or days of reconfiguration.

What options do I have, if any, to accomplish anything similar to what I'm
talking about with Fedora Core?



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