Old farts and new Linux (was: new FC1 install problems)

[Bill Diamond]

On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 01:05, Gregory Woodbury wrote:

> On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:10:14PM -0400, Bill Diamond wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 11:00, Steve Searle wrote:
> > 
> > > Around 03:44pm on Monday, May 03, 2004 (UK time), duncan brown scrawled:
> > > 
> > > > and i don't mean to insult you in anyway, but... i wonder who's the oldest
> > > > computer literate linux user out there?  i sort of have the mentality of
> > > > the hippies back in the 60s/70s, don't trust anyone over 30 =] ... it's
> > > > hard for me to believe that someone over 30 uses linux personally, once
> > > > you're over 30 you have to start thinking more like a manager =]... then
> > > > again, i'm almost over that line, but i don't feel like i'm that close =]
> > > 
> > > Well I'm 43 and have 5 PCs/Servers in my study running Gnu/Linux.  I
> > > started as a trainee programmer on a Honeywell maiunframe in '79.
> > > 
> > > And I know there are plenty older and more skilled than me.
> > 
> > Ditto. I'm pushing 44, and I have three Linux servers and two WinPCs.  
> > 
> > Please, sonny.  We grandpappys were programming Unix before you were
> > even conceived of.    Hell, I was programming Bell Version 3 back in
> > 1980.
> > 
> > So, y'all hush up now and respect your elders :-)
> 
> In 1980 it was Bell Labs "Edition 7" (based on the User's Manual
> edition).


We were a source code licensee for BV3.  It had some interesting
trapdoors.  My particular favorite was the ability to run su and fail it
three times in a row.  It made you root.  Lots of work went into weeding
out the various odd bits like that and we stuck with it.  Sort of forked
our own development path. 
  

> 
> Me?  In 1958 I was keypunching FORTRAN decks for my dad at age 5.
> Played with computers and teletypes and all sorts of fun stuff all my
> life.  Began UNIX with Edition 6 in 1978 at Duke, helped with the
> establishment of Usenet,  consulted at Bell Labs, did the NYC thing for
> a few years, then a few (15) years as departmental guru.  Hit Linux with
> kernel 0.94 and Slackware, then RedHat 2.x and have been a RH fan ever
> since.  I'm only 50, but I've been a computer user for longer than most.


I take it that must have been a bit of a challenge.  I mean, just
putting a control card on the drum of the 024 would have been a problem
at that height!  


Bill
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