XFree86 gone from Fedora Core? WHY!?

[Andy Green]

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On Friday 21 May 2004 09:57, William M. Quarles wrote:

> I'm sorry that I have pissed people off.  I'm having a hard time
> learning anything learning anything when people keep writing
> condescending and vague replies.  You tree and fungus metaphor is nice,

If you look through the list archives, generally replies here are extremely 
nicely phrased and there is a good atmosphere.  If that is not the case on 
this thread, it could be us, or...

> but this isn't poetry.  You still haven't explained why the XFree86
> project is, in your opinion, falling apart.  And again, I'm going to ask
> (and a bit redundantly, I admit):

I'm sorry, it's not my job to explain this to you: on the licensing questions, 
I am not qualified to explain it.  But reread my not-poetry: the license was 
the straw that broke the patience of saints, it was the whipping boy for 
older problems, as well as being a problem itself.  If you're interested, 
Google around, Slashdot has run stories on the Xouvert split, have a read of 
the XF86 ml archives, which contain many attempts to square the circle, even 
after the distros packed up.

> > Why would staying with the increasingly totalitarian XF86 project would
> > have been brighter?  I am interested to hear the reasons that escaped the
> > dumber-than-thou folks at SuSE, Mandrake, Debian, Redhat and so on.
>
> How is XFree86 increasingly totalitarian?  I think that a counterpoint
> to that is that they dissolved the core team to make the project more open.

Yeah, I think you'll find that was only after the Xouvert split, driven by 
reasonlessly restrictive CVS access policy and good patch ignoring, 
threatened what did in the end actually happen.  One thing to filter idiots 
from CVS and bin garbage patches, but that doesn't seem to have been the case 
at all.

>>>>>Who made the not-very-bright decision of choosing X.org over
>>>>>XFree86 for Fedora Core 2, and WHY?
> If you're so much brighter than me, than how come you can't enlighten

I don't feature in this at all: I hark on about YOUR 'brighter' theme to 
compare your "condescending" armchair wonderings with the ACTUAL work done by 
those distros to move away from XF86.  Do you really think they're all stupid 
but you have the one true way?  Reread your quote just above and have a 
meditate.

- -Andy

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