OT: fighting rbl's

Thomas Zehetbauer thomasz at hostmaster.org
Tue Nov 30 20:20:02 UTC 2004


On Die, 2004-11-30 at 14:38 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> I maintain mail servers and I use (free) services of black lists. If your IP 
> is listed, tough.

Tough for the users of your mail server. Tough if they seek another
admin because of your incompetence.

> I'm also on dialup; I use my IAP's mail server to relay my outgoing mail.

Fine, don't forget to wink at the listening NSA/FBI/CIA/... guys from
time to time.

> Even aside from problems with blacklists, using your IAP's relay makes sense 
> if you have any volume of mail; your outgoings go quickly to your IAP who 
> then has to worry about deliveries which _can_ take hours, days sometimes.

Do you imagine your ISP to employ a lot of postmen trying to deliver
your messages? Wake up, we live in the 21st century. The average desktop
machine has hundreds of times more power than the system that brought
people to the moon. I mostly don't care how long my messages wait in the
queue, almost all are delivered on the first attempt anyway.

> Those black lists stop _a lot_ of spam. I get a few a day and dozens a day 
> <plonked>.

I do only get a few spams per moth, spamassassin eats the rest, but I am
not blocking legitimate messages from going through. It's not spam that
could kill e-mail, it's ignorant and busive admins like you!

Tom

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