Apt-rpm and Fedora (maybe in Core 4?)

Temlakos temlakos at comcast.net
Wed Oct 27 18:07:08 UTC 2004


Well, *I* like apt-for-rpm so much that I routinely install it on any
client's machine. I'm working on a solid recommendation for the best
installation for apt--where to get it from and what repositories to use.

The only quarrel I have with apt is that sometimes when you do an
upgrade, apt insists on removing some packages because of broken
dependencies. That happened to GnuCash about a week ago. Basically,
GnuCash depends on LibOFX, and LibOFX depends in turn on a package that
got upgraded to the point where the LibOFX rpm couldn't run with it!
Fortunately, that problem resolved itself in a few days, so that I could
get GnuCash back.

That aside, apt is great. Haven't you noticed that whenever you want
something from apt, if that something depends on other packages, apt
will just get them for you? To make sure that this always holds,
however, you need to load your sources.list (or your xxx.list files in
the folder sources.list.d) with as many repository listings as you can
reasonably trust--*and* I tip my hat to those who advised me always to
import the gpg public keys from every repository that is good enough to
publish one.

I'd love it if I could be sure that apt could upgrade the entire
distribution of Fedora as easily as it upgrades, say, Debian. I'm sure
it's just a matter of some enhancements. And even without it, apt is my
first go-to place when I need to install something new.

Temlakos

On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 12:40, Federico Tello Gentile wrote:
> Hi people. Does anybody here use apt-rpm to install packages? I bet
> some do. I wanted to know if there are any plans to make the apt-rpm &
> synaptic combo more integrated in the Fedora distribution. I think
> synaptic makes a much more powerful and flexible alternative to the
> system-config-packages tool. I filed a enhancement
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=137260 (no idea if
> it is in the right place or if it is a good idea to do that).
> All I think is needed to make things really better when in comes to
> adding and removing packages is to make the Fedora ISO images include
> the apt-rpm metadata so the CDs can be used with apt-cdrom.
> 
> Browsing bugzilla I see some efforts regarding apt-rpm are in making
> the up2date applet capable of updating Fedora from apt repositories.
> This is good, but that application is not suitable for anything but
> updating packages already installed when there are newer versions.
> I know the red hat people likes developing the system-config- tools in
> Python and keep them as a "distinctive feature". I think they are
> reinventing the wheel, but if that is their choice, go ahead. I think
> the best tool for the job is Synaptic + apt-rpm, if only the CD were
> apt-enabled.




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