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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: downgrading to 2.4.27 in FC2? (netmask)
   2. Re: Linux builds for PowerPC? (Rahul Sundaram)
   3. Re: Apache build and SSL problem (Linn Kubler)
   4. Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 358 (Out of office
      reply.) (Rodolfo J. Paiz)
   5. Re: FC1 Users: Sample yum.conf for Fedora Legacy Updates
      (Rahul Sundaram)
   6. Re: Question about non working site in FC2, Mozilla
      (Rahul Sundaram)
   7. Re: Firefox 1.0 RC1 in Fedora Extras? (D. D. Brierton)
   8. Re: Linux builds for PowerPC? (D. D. Brierton)
   9. Re: Apt-rpm and Fedora (maybe in Core 4?) (Giulio Sorrentino)
  10. Re: How to set up network interface from scratch - newbie
      (Hartono Nugroho)
  11. Re: Need Help - Postfix, imap, pop, spamassissan, clamav,
      webmail (A.J. Bonnema)
  12. Problems with NFS (Jose Rafael Carrero Leon)
  13. Re: mysql 4.x and fedoracore2 (Giulio Sorrentino)
  14. Re: OT: Rejoining video files (Giulio Sorrentino)
  15. Re: pb with xorg install (Giulio Sorrentino)
  16. Re: mysql 4.x and fedoracore2 (Alexander Dalloz)
  17. Re: Questions with dual-boot setup. (Giulio Sorrentino)
  18. Re: Question about dual booting (or something similar)
      (Giulio Sorrentino)
  19. Re: Problems with NFS (netmask)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: netmask <netmask enZotech net>
Subject: Re: downgrading to 2.4.27 in FC2?
To: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram gmail com>,	For users of Fedora Core
	releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <0410291534050 0 somehost domainz com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

>> If so, did you run into any issues with compatability with the existing
>> distro? (I don't run X, it's strictly a console server).
>
> there are a good number of differences. You will likely run into problems.

Actually, went without a hitch.. no issues really.. iptables was fine, 
grsecurity went in fine, and all and all.. it was painless. Even using the .config from a 2.6.x kernel onto a 2.4.x kernel went fine.

> This is just flaming developers without understanding the motivation.
> perhaps http://lwn.net/Articles/95312/ would help you.

Interesting read, although it doesn't help. Switching to that model makes it 
impossible to contribute to kernel development without actually being a kernel 
developer (and checking it into kernel cvs). So if you want to write patches 
for a kernel, you'd have to basically re-write it mostly from scratch/hacks to 
ever get it to work on each version. This method will do exactly what it has 
done to the PaX team, discourage them from writing for it.. and forcing them 
to write for a kernel on its way to obsoletion.  Oh well, it's a good solution 
for some, bad for others.


-- 
netmask



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:23:06 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram gmail com>
Subject: Re: Linux builds for PowerPC?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <c79487d604102915533350f006 mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi


> One caveat: if you're a KDE user you're out of luck; Ubuntu only ships
> with GNOME.


wrong. Debian packages kde which is part of ubuntu repos called
"universe". they arent as well integrated as gnome but works
neverthless. The faq answers this question clearly

regards
Rahul Sundaram



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:53:38 -0500
From: Linn Kubler <lkubler gmail com>
Subject: Re: Apache build and SSL problem
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <873b67fe04102915533d80ff87 mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:06:16 +0100, Purvis Robert
<robert purvis nhsia nhs uk> wrote:
> If you have compiled Apache and want to start it with SSL you must use
> <apache-dir>/bin/apachectl startssl - notice the "startssl" not the
> normal "start". If you don't use startssl then Apache won't listen on
> port 443.
> 
> Rob
> 
Thanks for the tip Rob, but that wasn't my problem.

I have also solved my problem.  I decided to delete all the related
files and directories and start over and now it works.  I think what
happened was that I originally built Apache without mod_ssl and for
some reason simply rebuilding it didn't over write the original build.
 Once I deleted the Apache directory structure and rebuilt and
reinstalled everything it worked without a hitch.  I'm guessing that I
probably only needed to delete some configuration file or something
but I don't know exactly which file(s) that would have been.  It was
just easier to delete the whole mess and rebuild.

Thanks everyone who offered assistance,
Linn



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:59:32 -0600
From: "Rodolfo J. Paiz" <rpaiz simpaticus com>
Subject: Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 358 (Out of office
	reply.)
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099090772 3370 48 camel ip99 gt factorrent com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:04 -0700, Brian Mury wrote:
> Maybe, maybe not. Most software, at least in my experience, is smart
> enough to only send an out-of-office reply to the first mail from any
> sender. Since he's getting the digest, it always comes from the same
> sender. I guess we'll find out tomorrow...
> 

My experience is different, in that I see autoresponders send only one
message to each person *per day*. So tomorrow, you could expect another
response. But regardless, I've already seen three today.

Cheers,

-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz simpaticus com>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:32:48 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram gmail com>
Subject: Re: FC1 Users: Sample yum.conf for Fedora Legacy Updates
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <c79487d604102916021adb7439 mail gmail com>
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Hi

> Oh and where do I post something to sing the praises of the fedoralegacy
> folks? That wad of stuff that scrolled by was *very* impressive ....


I am not sure whether this was just humour or If you were really wondering. 
The stuff you saw scroll by is yum header files which contains the rpm
meta data used to solve dependencies. Yum downloads header info for
*all* packages in the repositories.

Yum now in fc3/development tree has switched to a new meta data format
and no longer uses header (.hdr) files so this should work much faster
 esp if you are on  a slow net connection

regards
Rahul Sundaram



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 04:50:23 +0530
From: Rahul Sundaram <rahulsundaram gmail com>
Subject: Re: Question about non working site in FC2, Mozilla
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <c79487d604102916203190c274 mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi

> 
> FC1 with the 2.4er kernel is not affected. The problem arose with
> changes in the 2.6er kernel.


If you really want to understand the "problem"

http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/

regards
Rahul Sundaram



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:02:58 +0100
From: "D. D. Brierton" <darren dzr-web com>
Subject: Re: Firefox 1.0 RC1 in Fedora Extras?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099094577 25732 212 camel excession dzr>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 21:57, Federico Tello Gentile wrote:
> http://fedoranews.org/tchung/firefox/
> There is how to make an RPM from the tar.gz binary. I did it and that
> is the Firefox I'm using to post this.

Thanks for the heads up. I've just built an RPM and installed it.
Firstly, firefox installs into /usr/lib/firefox/ which is not the Fedora
way of doing things -- it should install into /urs/lib/firefox-1.0rc1 or
some such. Secondly, it does not look for plugins in
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which is also the Fedora way of doing things;
I had to manually copy my plugins into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins.
However, more importantly the same problems that beset 1.0 PR1 also
beset 1.0 RC1: namely, you cannot install extensions or add search
engines as an ordinary user.

I'm assuming these problems have been reported on bugzilla.mozilla.org.
It's too late tonight for me to be bothered checking. I'll guess I'll
have a good look tomorrow. In the mean time I might as well report this
to bugzilla.fedora.us.

Best, Darren

-- 
=====================================================================
D. D. Brierton            darren dzr-web com          www.dzr-web.com
       Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson)
=====================================================================



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:06:47 +0100
From: "D. D. Brierton" <darren dzr-web com>
Subject: Re: Linux builds for PowerPC?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099094807 25732 215 camel excession dzr>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 23:53, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> wrong. Debian packages kde which is part of ubuntu repos called
> "universe". they arent as well integrated as gnome but works
> neverthless. The faq answers this question clearly

Well as I said in the message you replied to:

> I'm not a Debian user, so don't take anything I say as being
> authoritative in any way.

Nevertheless, it is true that Ubuntu doesn't come with KDE.

Best, Darren

-- 
=====================================================================
D. D. Brierton            darren dzr-web com          www.dzr-web.com
       Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson)
=====================================================================



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:48:02 +0200
From: Giulio Sorrentino <numerone fedora wooow it>
Subject: Re: Apt-rpm and Fedora (maybe in Core 4?)
To: Federico Tello Gentile <federicotg gmail com>,	For users of Fedora
	Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <4182E4C2 60201 wooow it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Federico Tello Gentile wrote:

>Hi people. Does anybody here use apt-rpm to install packages? I bet
>some do. I wanted to know if there are any plans to make the apt-rpm &
>synaptic combo more integrated in the Fedora distribution. I think
>synaptic makes a much more powerful and flexible alternative to the
>system-config-packages tool. I filed a enhancement
>http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=137260 (no idea if
>it is in the right place or if it is a good idea to do that).
>All I think is needed to make things really better when in comes to
>adding and removing packages is to make the Fedora ISO images include
>the apt-rpm metadata so the CDs can be used with apt-cdrom.
>
>Browsing bugzilla I see some efforts regarding apt-rpm are in making
>the up2date applet capable of updating Fedora from apt repositories.
>This is good, but that application is not suitable for anything but
>updating packages already installed when there are newer versions.
>I know the red hat people likes developing the system-config- tools in
>Python and keep them as a "distinctive feature". I think they are
>reinventing the wheel, but if that is their choice, go ahead. I think
>the best tool for the job is Synaptic + apt-rpm, if only the CD were
>apt-enabled.
>  
>

Fedora has yum...



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:54:42 +0700
From: "Hartono Nugroho" <hanugro indo net id>
Subject: Re: How to set up network interface from scratch - newbie
To: <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <200410300055 i9U0t0N1018338 mx3 redhat com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:18:18 -0400
From: Filippos Klironomos <PresarioD gmail com>


>> I just install USB wireless device using ndiswrapper and the interface is
>> wlan0.  I run iwconfig setup (ISSD, key, etc) and wlan0 already recognize
my
>> router MAC address.  I try to set up using network config but my device
does
>> not show up in the choices. 
>> 

>That is usually the hard part! Could you please post what the result of
>iwconfig wlan0 is. And after you have set up ESSID with something like
>iwconfig wlan0 essid $ESSID could you post that as well? Then just try
>ifconfig wlan0 
>and see what you get. In order to use the wireless device with network
>config I think you have to set up a new device while ndiswrapper is
>running and then it will show up as an option. Frankly though I never
>use the network config interface. I like the hands on 'iwconfig',
>'ifconfig' command line...

Hi I finally can install it.  After I do ndiswrapper -m it will appear in
network config.  How do you set the interface to be a dhcp client using
ifconfig command line?  All that I can see it can only set up a static IP.



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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 02:56:33 +0200
From: "A.J. Bonnema" <abonnema xs4all nl>
Subject: Re: Need Help - Postfix, imap, pop, spamassissan, clamav,
	webmail
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <4182E6C1 1090607 xs4all nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Volker Kindermann wrote:
> If you have concrete problems by following the tutorial, feel free to ask again, if you prefer do it per private mail.

I feel that would defeat the purpose of this list. The solutions to 
problems is what the list is about (in my opinion).

Guus.
-- 
A.J. Bonnema, Leiden The Netherlands,
user #328198 (Linux Counter http://counter.li.org)



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:09:57 -0400
From: Jose Rafael Carrero Leon <jrcl00 gmail com>
Subject: Problems with NFS
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <778e1a220410291809731629eb mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi,

I have a machine running in FC2 acting as a NFS server, sometimes the
machine goes down for an unknown reason, when the machine starts
again, and start the server, the clients can't mount the filesystems
and keeps telling me that the server is down.

Why? i've tried everything i though could solve the problem but the
error keeps popping out.

-- 
root, dioses ... Cual es la diferencia?
-----------------------------------------------------
Jose Rafael Carrero Leon
Linux User #355756



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:10:17 +0200
From: Giulio Sorrentino <numerone fedora wooow it>
Subject: Re: mysql 4.x and fedoracore2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <4182E9F9 1050904 wooow it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed

Excuse me if I break your discussion about license.
For anyone is interested: on mysql.com can be freely downloaded the rpms 
of mysql 4.0 and 4.1.
http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/4.0.html
http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/4.1.html

I've installed the 4.0 on my fedora, it give me only a warning: 041029 
23:41:46  [ERROR] Warning: Asked for 196608 thread stack, but got 126976 
but it starts.
I've not tryed to get it work (i'm an amatorial php programmer), but for 
anyone needs the "updates" are aviable.



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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:15:37 +0200
From: Giulio Sorrentino <numerone fedora wooow it>
Subject: Re: OT: Rejoining video files
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <4182EB39 1000304 wooow it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

david walcroft wrote:

> Hi,
>    Can someone tell me how to rejoin .mpeg/.avi/.mov/.wmv type files,
> I have some from a local binaries usenet and to post they split them
> up some are 6 sections and have an .eml added,the majority use M$ to OP.
>  I'm using fc2 and mplayer but know nothing of video.
>
>    Thanks   david

Try avidemux



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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:17:39 +0200
From: Giulio Sorrentino <numerone fedora wooow it>
Subject: Re: pb with xorg install
To: yohann desquerre wanadoo fr,	For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <4182EBB3 9030305 wooow it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

yohann.desquerre wrote:

> hi all,
>
> my aim is to write a french doc to show how to make a minimum install 
> of fedora become useful!
>
> i've got a problem with the install of xorg-x11
>
> i tried yum install xorg-x11 on two differents machines ( one with an 
> nvidia graphic chipset and one with an ati one). in the two way yum 
> install nvidia-kernel-module.... ok on the first system but why on the 
> second.....
>
> whatever the machines i used, i need to reboot before xorg start 
> correctly, before the reboot when i try startx i've got a black screen 
> and no way to get back the hand on a console (expect connecting from 
> another system).
>
> anyone may explain me why the nvidia-module is always installed and 
> why i 'have to reboot before to use xorg correctly (at the first time 
> after the install)
> thanks for help 

Probably because the nvidia module is not loaded.
Try to load it manually befor rebotting X.



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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:37:08 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander dalloz uni-bielefeld de>
Subject: Re: mysql 4.x and fedoracore2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1099100228 18072 729 camel serendipity dogma lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Am Sa, den 30.10.2004 schrieb Giulio Sorrentino um 3:10:

> Excuse me if I break your discussion about license.
> For anyone is interested: on mysql.com can be freely downloaded the rpms > of mysql 4.0 and 4.1.

But the fact that you are able to download a software freely does not
imply that you are allowed to use it freely under each circumstance. So
you should know what license you accept and have to respect.

Alexander


-- 
Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13
Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp 
Serendipity 03:34:42 up 10 days, 14 users, load average: 0.54, 0.44,
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:40:54 +0200
From: Giulio Sorrentino <numerone fedora wooow it>
Subject: Re: Questions with dual-boot setup.
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <4182F126 5030000 wooow it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

David Le wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have 2 separated disks and 1 PC.
>-Disk 1 installed Windows XP originally.
>-Disk 2 installed FC1 by me separately.
>
>Currently, I have to swap between Disk 1 and Disk 2
>when I boot-up my PC. It is very inconvenient so I
>want to setup dual-boot such that I am able to select
>the OS at the boot-up time and, in the futre, I can
>always switch back to single boot with Windows XP disk
>only.
>I'm not sure if Linux boot loader will change any
>thing on the master boot record of Disk1 (Windows XP)
>such that I cannot boot Disk1 without Disk2 attached?
>I still need Disk 1 for other critical tasks so I'd
>like to leave Disk 1 untouched as much as I can. 
>
>Your answer is appreciated.
>
>--david le.
>  
>
I assume that you want to put linux as primary master and windows as 
primary slave.

What you want to do is not safe: windows xp has been installed on 
primary master as linux; so every "hard riferiment" (if they exist) on 
windows are on primary master: if you switch and they exists are lost; 
so DO A BACKUP COPY BEFORE START (i suggest you to do an hard disk image).
If on linux hard disk are any vaft/ntfs partition destroy it or reformat 
in any filesystem that windows does not recognize.

If you want to keep them separate i suggest you to boot with the 
recovery console and reinstall windows boot loader as primary slave.
After you have to control that the c:\boot.ini file has been modified 
for searching windows directory on primary slave: if it don't you have 
to modify it.
You should have a line similar to: 
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP 
Professional" /fastdetect
I suggest you to do a bertpe (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/) cd and 
integrate in it the norton ghost 8.

Then try to boot and if it works you simply have to  modify the grub 
configuration as suggested; if it does not works you have to restore the 
disk as primary master and run norton ghost to have "roll back" with the 
hard disk image.



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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:46:12 +0200
From: Giulio Sorrentino <numerone fedora wooow it>
Subject: Re: Question about dual booting (or something similar)
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <4182F264 3060408 wooow it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed

David Le wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have 2 separated disks and 1 PC.
>-Disk 1 installed Windows XP originally.
>-Disk 2 installed FC1 by me separately.
>
>Currently, I have to swap between Disk 1 and Disk 2
>when I boot-up my PC. It is very inconvenient so I
>want to setup dual-boot such that I am able to select
>the OS at the boot-up time and, in the futre, I can
>always switch back to single boot with Windows XP disk
>only.
>I'm not sure if Linux boot loader will change any
>thing on the master boot record of Disk1 (Windows XP)
>such that I cannot boot Disk1 without Disk2 attached?
>I still need Disk 1 for other critical tasks so I'd
>like to leave Disk 1 untouched as much as I can. 
>
>Your answer is appreciated.
>
>--david le.
>  
>
I assume that you want to put linux as primary master and windows as 
primary slave.

What you want to do is not safe: windows xp has been installed on 
primary master as linux; so every "hard riferiment" (if they exist) on 
windows are on primary master: if you switch and they exists are lost; 
so DO A BACKUP COPY BEFORE START (i suggest you to do an hard disk image).
If on linux hard disk are any vaft/ntfs partition destroy it or reformat 
in any filesystem that windows does not recognize.

If you want to keep them separate i suggest you to boot with the 
recovery console and reinstall windows boot loader as primary slave.
After you have to control that the c:\boot.ini file has been modified 
for searching windows directory on primary slave: if it don't you have 
to modify it.
You should have a line similar to: 
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(0)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP 
Professional" /fastdetect
I suggest you to do a bertpe (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/) cd and 
integrate in it the norton ghost 8.

Then try to boot and if it works you simply have to  modify the grub 
configuration as suggested; if it does not works you have to restore the 
disk as primary master and run norton ghost to have "roll back" with the 
hard disk image.



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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:47:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: netmask <netmask enZotech net>
Subject: Re: Problems with NFS
To: Jose Rafael Carrero Leon <jrcl00 gmail com>,	For users of Fedora
	Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <0410291845290 5116 somehost domainz com>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed


Hi Jose,

Will need a little more information..

Do you have the service starting automatically on boot, or do you do it by hand?

When it is broken, what do you do to fix it?

When it's been fixed, have you done an lsof -i -n to ensure that the service 
is listening? How about a "showmount -e localhost"  on the host to see if it 
can see it locally?

No iptables issues or anything?

What version of NFS?


Sorry for all the questions.. just trying to think of what it could be.

> Jose Rafael Carrero Leon (jrcl00 gmail com) composed today:

> Hi,
>
> I have a machine running in FC2 acting as a NFS server, sometimes the
> machine goes down for an unknown reason, when the machine starts
> again, and start the server, the clients can't mount the filesystems
> and keeps telling me that the server is down.
>
> Why? i've tried everything i though could solve the problem but the
> error keeps popping out.
>
>


-- 
netmask



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