Want redirector for best fedora archive

Keith Lofstrom keithl at kl-ic.com
Thu Sep 23 20:31:13 UTC 2004


We get numerous newbie questions whose answers can be found in the
archives.  These usually generate an irritated response but no answer,
which means that anyone doing the right thing and searching the archives
later is going to find two useless hits, making the response "use the
archives" less practical than it ought to be.

This is compounded by the fact that anyone searching the fedora-list
archive on redhat today (2004 Sept 23) is going to run into a broken
search engine, and in fact will get no answer to their question.  So
it seems sort of silly to tell people to use "the" archive, when in
fact they should be using the  aimsgroup  archive for now:

   http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&r=1&w=2

So the proper "enlightened irritated" response to train newbies is
to give them that pointer so they can look things up (and look up
Lisa's wonderful README, too).

But -- putting that URL into messages itself gets put into the
archive, forever.  The chances that the URL will still work a year
from now is low.  This corrupts the archive, too.

The best answer would be to get Redhat to fix their *%$#& search
engine, and keep it fixed forever.  The next best answer would be
to create a redirect somewhere, so that it points at aimsgroup for
now and redhat later, when they get their archive fixed.  The default
answer seems to be castigate and frustrate the newbies, and then
wonder why Linux still has single digit percentages of market share.

I have created a couple of redirects, currently pointed at the
aimsgroup archive:

   http://tinyurl.com/4jjp9
   http://www.keithl.com/fedora-archive

But the first will link-rot if/when aimsgroup changes (no improvement
there), and the second relies on my own responsiveness and uptime
and longevity (I hope good, but who knows?).  

So, finally, the questions: 

1) Can anyone offer a good redirect for the archives, that they are
willing to keep current, on a site with good bandwidth, uptime,
security, and longevity?   

2) If such a redirect is available, will people use it, rather than
just blowing off the newbies?

Keith


(PS:  The fellow at tinyurl says that they hope to offer premium
tinyurls, allowing you to edit them and choose the name. That might
be the best in the long term.)

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