Silly Question - New Login
Berna Massingill
bmassing at cs.trinity.edu
Wed Aug 17 09:13:33 UTC 2005
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 04:11:36AM -0500, Berna Massingill wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 10:08:21AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
>>
>> >> Berna Massingill wrote:
>> >>
>> [ snip ]
>>
>> >> >>>Applications --> System tools -->> New Login
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>This will let you open different users for different consoles. There are
>> >> >>>items like sound that don't work wel on the new login, but it is handy
>> >> >>>for running KDE or XFCE in one console and Gnome in the other.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >The command-line version of this (for those who are into such things)
>> >> >might be "X :1 -query <machinename> -once".
>> >> >
>> >> >I say "might be" because I just tried this on my newly-installed FC4
>> >> >system, and got (1) a blank screen with a little X in the middle,
>> >> >and (2) error messages when I went back to the original screen
>> >> >(with control-alt-F7). I also tried it from a text console, with
>> >> >the same result.
>> >> >
>> >> >So I tried your GNOME-GUI way, described above, and that didn't work
>> >> >either, though the symptoms were slightly different -- blank screen with
>> >> >a cursor at the top, very similar to what was happening with the text
>> >> >consoles before I applied the "copy libvgahw.a from an FC3 system"
>> >> >fix discussed recently in this list.
>> >> >
>> >> >Hm. Anyone know what's wrong? This can be a useful thing to have.
>>
>> [ snip ]
>>
>> >> The properties in the command is the command "gdmflexiserver" on my
>> >> computer. I ran this from the commandline and it brought up another
>> >> screen for login on F8 While there was still a session on F7. This seems
>> >> to be a function from gdm login manager.
>>
>> Do you remember doing anything special to enable this? I'm wondering
>> why this (starting a second session as you described previously from
>> a GNOME menu) would work for you and not for me.
Update / some mysteries solved:
(*) On my system gdmflexiserver starts a second graphical session, but
on virtual terminal 9, not 8.
(*) "X :1 -query localhost -once" also does *something* with virtual
terminal 9, but whatever it is is not a huge success -- I get a blank
screen with a little "X" in the middle.
(*) The following lines appear in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf:
[xdmcp]
# Distributions: Ship with this off. It is never a safe thing to leave
# out on the net. Setting up /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to only
# allow local access is another alternative but not the safest.
# Firewalling port 177 is the safest if you wish to have xdmcp on.
# Read the manual for more notes on the security of XDMCP.
#Enable=false
I *think*, but I'm not sure, that all of this started working better
when I changed "#Enable=false" to "Enable=true". Based on the comments,
it does seem that "X :1 -query" won't work without this change.
Further questions:
(*) Why do these second X sessions use virtual terminal 9 rather than 8?
(*) Why does "X :1 -query" still not work?
(*) Where is the "-query" option to "X" documented, anyway? It doesn't
seem to be in the man page for the "X" command.
-- blm
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