Silly Question - New Login
Lokrin
redhat at lokrin.net
Wed Aug 17 10:21:07 UTC 2005
Berna Massingill wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 04:11:36AM -0500, Berna Massingill wrote:
>
>
>>> On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 10:08:21AM -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Berna Massingill wrote:
>>> >>
>>> [ snip ]
>>>
>>> >> >>>Applications --> System tools -->> New Login
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>This will let you open different users for different consoles. There are
>>> >> >>>items like sound that don't work wel on the new login, but it is handy
>>> >> >>>for running KDE or XFCE in one console and Gnome in the other.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >The command-line version of this (for those who are into such things)
>>> >> >might be "X :1 -query <machinename> -once".
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I say "might be" because I just tried this on my newly-installed FC4
>>> >> >system, and got (1) a blank screen with a little X in the middle,
>>> >> >and (2) error messages when I went back to the original screen
>>> >> >(with control-alt-F7). I also tried it from a text console, with
>>> >> >the same result.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >So I tried your GNOME-GUI way, described above, and that didn't work
>>> >> >either, though the symptoms were slightly different -- blank screen with
>>> >> >a cursor at the top, very similar to what was happening with the text
>>> >> >consoles before I applied the "copy libvgahw.a from an FC3 system"
>>> >> >fix discussed recently in this list.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Hm. Anyone know what's wrong? This can be a useful thing to have.
>>>
>>> [ snip ]
>>>
>>> >> The properties in the command is the command "gdmflexiserver" on my
>>> >> computer. I ran this from the commandline and it brought up another
>>> >> screen for login on F8 While there was still a session on F7. This seems
>>> >> to be a function from gdm login manager.
>>>
>>> Do you remember doing anything special to enable this? I'm wondering
>>> why this (starting a second session as you described previously from
>>> a GNOME menu) would work for you and not for me.
>
>
>
> Update / some mysteries solved:
>
> (*) On my system gdmflexiserver starts a second graphical session, but
> on virtual terminal 9, not 8.
>
> (*) "X :1 -query localhost -once" also does *something* with virtual
> terminal 9, but whatever it is is not a huge success -- I get a blank
> screen with a little "X" in the middle.
>
> (*) The following lines appear in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf:
>
> [xdmcp]
> # Distributions: Ship with this off. It is never a safe thing to leave
> # out on the net. Setting up /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to only
> # allow local access is another alternative but not the safest.
> # Firewalling port 177 is the safest if you wish to have xdmcp on.
> # Read the manual for more notes on the security of XDMCP.
> #Enable=false
>
> I *think*, but I'm not sure, that all of this started working better
> when I changed "#Enable=false" to "Enable=true". Based on the comments,
> it does seem that "X :1 -query" won't work without this change.
>
>
> Further questions:
>
> (*) Why do these second X sessions use virtual terminal 9 rather than 8?
>
> (*) Why does "X :1 -query" still not work?
>
> (*) Where is the "-query" option to "X" documented, anyway? It doesn't
> seem to be in the man page for the "X" command.
>
>
>
> -- blm
>
I haven't been following this thread, but what I use from tty1 (vt1, or
whatever) is the following, which I've got aliased to "startx". This is
my home computer and it starts out at init level 5 with kde on vt7 This
command logs me in as root on vt8. My two problems are that I would
prefer KDE over gnome - why, since my default vt7 login is kde, does
this send me to gnome? - and when I log out of the session it stops the
X session on VT8 totally and doesn't give me the option of logging in as
a different user..
startx -- :1 2>devnul &
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