Fedora community (Was: Revised Fedora Core website - Where are the links?)
sundaram at redhat.com
Fri Dec 23 22:37:29 UTC 2005
>Somewhere on the http://fedora.redhat.com home page should be placed a
>notice of the transition to FedoraProject.org. (A link would be a nice
>touch.) If visitors to the old site cannot find what they're searching
>for they can go to the new site. No need to google.
We havent made the decision yet. We are *still* discussing it.
http://fedoraproject.org does not have all of the infrastructure
necessary for a complete transition at this point and is maintained by
volunteers. Again all of the discussion in the archives and is available
in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites. The schedule is available
The entire list of infrastructure details is available from
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure. You can also help by
signing up and doing things.
>I may not have expressed myself very clearly. The main Fedora Core
>home page has been and currently is http://fedora.redhat.com. Just do
>a Google search for "Fedora Core". My comment about the change being
>stealthy is that the site has been significantly altered. There is
>nothing on the main page or in either "News" or "About" regarding the
>change to the site.
The changes are work in progress. We havent decided on anything yet. The
News page links to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate. It has the
Let me trace back the history of this change a bit.
I initiated the discussion in fedora-docs list. See
on creating a new mailing list for interactions about the website which
had previous been discussed in fedora-docs and fedora-marketing list and
someone in private mails among web administrators of the websites to
make it open and transparent to the community. The archives are
available. It was also later announced on the fedora-marketing list
Fedora marketing list is where the discussion about a potential
transition to fedoraproject.org happened the whole point of which is to
enable more of the community to participate through the wiki among other
> Only people who know about the change are those of
>the fedora-website-list which is a back channel communications link,
>much like this list. I agree, the archives are public, but it is not
>highly visible. What query string would you use in Google to find this
Try "Fedora websites"?. Its the first hit.
>The change is clumsy because a simple notice
>and link would have handled the mysterious loss of content.
The work was done by volunteers. They might not have done a perfect job.
You can file bug reports (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites) or
post to the fedora-websites list instead of calling changes stealthy and
club members only. I find that kind of language unnecessarily hostile
Look I care about doing things transparently as much as possible. I am
working on several such things to enable it. For example coordinating
with the fedoranews.org administrator.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/rahulsundaram/1823.html (feeds from
http://fedoraproject.org/people) to have a regular flow of news of all
Fedora related information in a central place which In have proposed to
feed into news.fedoraproject.org and which will automatically show up in
the frontpage of http://fedoraproject.org. fedoranews.org site is being
redesigned to make that happen. see http://fedoranews.org/cms for a
preview of that. Such things dont happen in a day. We do a lot of work
behind the scenes for the community at large to be kept informed. I
spend several hours editing the wiki on a daily basis to make changes
that provides information to the community. see
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RecentChanges. I have worked on the
release notes extensively and triage bugs when I can. I request
developers all the time to post information to the lists and thats why I
am answering mails on this list and fedora forums all through the night
on a weekend even though my day job has nothing to do with Fedora. How
about less hostility in return for that?. Fair deal?
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