GNOME updates vs. KDE updates

Gilboa Davara gilboad at gmail.com
Sun Dec 18 22:30:14 UTC 2005


On 12/18/05, Charles Howse <chowse at charter.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 17:38 +0000, D. D. Brierton wrote:
> >> I see that KDE 3.5.0 for FC4 was released on updates-released. That's
> >> very nice for the KDE users, but I was slightly surprised by it. The
> >> reason I am surprised by it is that no such updates are ever released
> >> for GNOME, which is the default desktop on FC.
> >>
> >> Now I can understand that making FC4 packages of GNOME 2.12.0 is just
> >> too big a job (it would require upgrading a lot of system level
> packages
> >> such as HAL, etc.), although similar considerations would, I'd have
> >> thought, apply to upgrading from KDE 3.4 to 3.5.
> >>
> >> But we don't even get the bug-fix/maintenance releases either. I have a
> >> fully updated FC4 box and it has GNOME 2.10.0. A quick look here:
> >>
> >> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/platform/2.10/
> >>
> >> shows that 2.10.1 was released in April 2005 and 2.10.2 was released in
> >> July 2005.
> >>
> >> So I really would like to know, how come Red Hat developers have time
> to
> >> ship a major update to KDE but not even maintenance releases for GNOME?
> >>
> >> Best, Darren
> >
> >
> > Far from it.
> > As someone that just finished building KDE 3.5 RPMs for x86_64 (based on
> > KDE-RedHat's SRPMs) I can fully appreciate the amount of work required
> > to get KDE 3.5 built.
> > KDE is self-sufficient. You just need to build 14 base packages (+
> > language packs) that don't really depend on anything outside KDE.
> > Build at -> arts -> kdelibs -> kdebase -> kde* -> language -> install.
> >
> > GNOME on the other hand, is a huge mess to upgrade, even when using
> > garnom.
> > Last time I counted, GNOME had around of 120 (!!!) packages, with weird
> > cross-dependencies between them. It's far from being the same task.
> > (Last time I tried using it, back in FC2 days, I ended up with a dead
> > system on my hands.)
> >
> > Just compare KDE source packages:
> > ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5/src/
> > To GNOME packages:
> > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/Public/gnome/sources
> >
> > BTW, Slackware recently (10.2) dropped GNOME citing too-complex building
> > requirements as a reason.
>
> And Linus Torvalds was recently quoted as encouraging users to switch to
> KDE.
> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12956
>
>
... Which has nothing to do with building GNOME 2.10.x for FC4.
Please don't turn this thread into a KDE vs. GNOME thread.

Gilboa
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