Solution Coming Re: Fedora Community: Under threat?

Jim Cornette fc-cornette at insight.rr.com
Tue Feb 8 00:47:20 UTC 2005


Dotan Cohen wrote:
> This is probably redundant, but I would suggest to anybody who's
> looking for a good interface to work with the volume on this list to
> use gmail. It threads the discssions better than Kmail did for me,
> it's there when i want it and I'm not waiting to download anything.
> And the whole stars-labels thing is brilliant for managing mailing
> lists. It only works in firefox mind you (I personally prefer opera),
> but if anybody wants to give it a shot, just email me
> dotan at dotancohen.com and I'll send you an invite for gmail.
> 
> Dotan
> 
> 
> On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:48:47 -0400, Arthur Pemberton
> <dalive at flashmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Fritz Whittington wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On or about 2005-02-07 12:59, William Hooper whipped out a trusty #2
>>>pencil and scribbled:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Michael W. Carney said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>>Hash: SHA1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>|
>>>>>| And the Really Great Thing [tm] about using the NNTP protocol as a
>>>>>base
>>>>>| is that there *are* good news-to-mail and news-to-web gateway
>>>>>software
>>>>>| packages! So if the base is NNTP, you can use a newsreader, mail
>>>>>client,
>>>>>| or browser (whichever you prefer) to get the messages any way you
>>>>>like. |
>>>>>| What's not to like?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nothing. Let's *PLEASE* to to a fedora-private nntp system for the
>>>>>fedora community "groups". Using mail lists for the community has
>>>>>been and
>>>>>continues to be torture.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There are already two ways of viewing this list via NNTP, why do we need
>>>>another?
>>>>
>>>>As previously mentioned, gmane.org carries the Fedora lists.  I also go
>>>>reminded (thanks to Pete Zaitcev's Blog) that Red Hat also already
>>>>runs an
>>>>NNTP gateway (news://news.redhat.com/).
>>>>
>>>>Anyone wishing to test a "news-to-web" gateway would do well to start
>>>>there tests with one of those two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Agreed.  The only problem with the gmane.org news is that it doesn't
>>>seem to propagate postings to it backwards to the list, only from the
>>>list to the newsgroup.  OTOH, if we all just stopped using the list
>>>and just used the newsgroup....
>>>
>>>Is there any good reason that we continue with the mail list when the
>>>newsgroup seems to work so much better?  I suppose it depends a little
>>>on your connection speed, your ISP (POP3 or IMAP)  and your  mail/news
>>>reader software.  But I think it makes a lot more sense to download
>>>just the headers and then pick the articles you wish to see, than
>>>having to download everything (as in POP3).
>>
>>Pardon my ignorance, but why are newsgroups so much better? and how do I
>>go abotu accessing the fedora newsgroups?
>

There are a few extra steps needed to use the news.redhat.com news 
service and then select gated.rhl-list. I am replying to this post from 
the news service and then changing the from and replacing the list and 
the newsgroup with my account that I ma subscribed to the fedora-list with.
The headers are probably messed up and break threads, but it migh be a 
good option if you would rather read the messages via the nntp newsgroup 
and only reply to your account where you selected to not recieve 
messages from.

I personally still prefer regular email, but see this option as a 
possible solution to those wanting nntp, which is already in place, sort of.

Jim

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