Solution Coming Re: Fedora Community: Under threat?

[Dotan Cohen]

This is not the only list that I've seen people complain about Gmail's
reply behaviour. I just wrote them some 'feedback' on the subject. As
gmail is still beta, I assume that this can be taken care of- and that
they care enough to do it. We'll see.

Dotan
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:03:09 -0600, Jonathan Berry <berryja at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 15:08:55 -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz
> <rpaiz at simpaticus.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 00:05 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > This is probably redundant, but I would suggest to anybody who's
> > > looking for a good interface to work with the volume on this list to
> > > use gmail. It threads the discssions better than Kmail did for me,
> > > it's there when i want it and I'm not waiting to download anything.
> >
> > Two things:
> >
> >         * This whole discussion started from a post by Warren Togami indicating
> > an "imminent" plan to move most end-user support from the mailing list
> > to a web forum. That was loudly received as a bloody awful idea, and the
> > thought of using a newsgroup as base, with a gateway to mail and/or web,
> > was proposed as an alternative. It's not about which mail
> > clients/providers allow easier threading of mail... it's about mail or
> > usenet vs. the web fora Warren proposed.
> 
> Yes, but it can apply as Gmail would not be able to be used with a web
> forum or just a newsgroup.  It sounds like a new-to-mail gateway could
> be added to a newsgroup to allow things to work very similarly to the
> mailing list as it now is.  As well, it sounds like a web interface
> could be added to look like a web forum.  It seems the general
> consensus is a newsgroup is the most flexible alternative.
> I find Gmail to have a very good interface for using mailing lists as
> well.  Perhaps if RedHat really wanted a web forum, they could take a
> look at the interface and create something similar.  That might be a
> reasonable web forum interface, but I doubt that it would happen.
> 
> >         * Gmail has a nasty habit of modifying reply-to headers, changing
> > replies to list so that they request direct replies instead of replies
> > to list. That sounds confusing, so again: you send mail to the list from
> > Gmail, and when I reply to your post, it goes directly to you instead of
> > fedora-list. This is hugely annoying. Just as an FYI.
> 
> This isn't completely true.  Gmail simply sets the reply-to header and
> the mailing list modifies it to also include the list.  You hit reply
> and the email, by default, sends to both me *and* the list.  The
> problem begins when I reply to your reply, which I got from you and
> not the list since I have duplicate delivery turned off.  The email
> goes straight to you and not to the list unless I use reply-to-all.
> Some other people have their email clients set to set the reply-to
> address, it is just that Gmail doesn't seem to be able to turn that
> off right now.  If people were more careful about who they send the
> email to (you can remove my name when you reply, or I can be careful
> to use reply-to-all if needed) this would not be a problem.
> 
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz at simpaticus.com>
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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