Comments on bug 140214 - the removal of X utilities?

[Giulio Sorrentino]

Bryan Ischo wrote:

>There is nothing about having xcalc, xbiff, xmessage, etc, that prevents
>users from using alternatives if they want to.
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>X11 itself has been around for 20+ years - should Fedora Core get rid of
>it because it's also old?
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There are more then two calculators for linux.
If we don't cut old things similar but not better then new ones we lost 
innovation...

>Fedora is used by both new users *and* experts.  Why do you say that it's
>not used by experts?  I can see how one could easily say, "program X
>should not be in the distribution", if one had such a narrow view of who
>the target audience of the distribution is.  But I don't have such a
>narrow view of the target audience - I think Fedora Core is for
>*everybody*.
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I am a "power user" and I use fedora.
I want to say that most of fedora's audience is not expert. Newbies does 
not know that programs and most of them does not want to try other programs.

>xbiff is not an email client, it's just an email notification program - it
>watches your mailbox and tells you when new mail is available.  You don't
>have to be running your mail program all the time just to wait for new
>mail - xbiff will tell you when you have new mail and you can run your
>mail program to read the new mail at that time.
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>Actually xbiff is more general than that - it can show a "status changed"
>icon any time the status of a file or the status code of a program have
>changed, but it is most usually applied to checking for new email.  That's
>how I've been using it for 10+ years now anyway.
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As you can see I, that use linux from many years, does not know xbiff. 
How can, a newbye, knows it?

>Thanks,
>Bryan
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>Bryan Ischo             bryan at ischo.com                          N, R, 6
>New York, NY, USA       http://www.ischo.com            RedHat Linux 7.3
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I'm only demonstrating that programs are not used...
bye