NVIDIA driver *taints* kernel???
Guy Fraser
guy at incentre.net
Fri Jan 21 18:00:09 UTC 2005
On Thu, 2005-20-01 at 23:36 -0600, Jonathan Berry wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:51:47 -0500, Sam Varshavchik
> <mrsam at courier-mta.com> wrote:
> > Guy Fraser writes:
> > > On Tue, 2005-18-01 at 21:37 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > >> There are many graphics cards with reliable, open source, native x.org
> > >> drivers. I suggest that you pick one, and support the vendors that support
> > >> open source.
> > >>
> > > Again you are so wrong.
> >
> > What's wrong with supporting vendors that support open source?
>
> Nothing. But as Paul pointed out, ATi does not support open source either.
>
> [snip]
> > Well, these closed source drivers may be there today. Will they be there
> > tomorrow? When a new kernel comes out, is there any chance that NVidia
> > might change their mind, decide not to invest any more resources into
> > support AMD64, and stop providing bug fixes and updates?
>
> This is always possible. Of course, you could also give this argument
> for Windows. They could decide not to support x64, or Longhron, or
> other Windows updates. This, of course, would be unthinkable, and
> yes, dropping Linux support would be *much* more likely, but one can
> still make the argument. One could also argue that nVidia could
> decide to open source their drivers. Again, not very likely, but it
> is possible. Likewise, I think this is not very likely as long as
> nVidia sees they can make money by supporting Linux. Anything can
> change, so let's evaluate what we have now. Right now, nVidia
> provides good support for Linux with closed-source drivers.
>
> > I know I won't have that problem with an open source driver.
>
> But will that driver continue to support the video cards that are out
> there? Eventually ATi will stop making the chipsets that are
> currently supported. Then ATi and nVidia will truely be in the same
> boat, and I think nVidia (right now) has the more stable Linux ship.
>
> Probably the best thing we can do is support the video card companies
> that support Linux at all. Maybe if we show are support and are vocal
> enough, they will open source their drivers. At least they will
> continue to support their products and give Linux the respect it
> deserves as a viable operating system. If we turn our backs on those
> who try to support us, but do not give us exactly what we want, who
> will benefit from that?
>
> Jonathan
Well put.
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