Why I think FC3 sucks!

[Edward Yang]

Pasha wrote:

> Edward Yang wrote:
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>> Pasha wrote:
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>>> Edward Yang wrote:
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>>>> Pasha wrote:
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>>>>>>>> 5. I am a newbie on Linux, but I already find a few bugs. For 
>>>>>>>> example, in gnome-termial, if I set DEL to ASCII DEL in the 
>>>>>>>> profile settings, it actualy acts like BACKSPACE. This bug may 
>>>>>>>> be specific only to gnome, but since it's bundled with FC3, so 
>>>>>>>> I attribute the problem to FC3. It's quite reasonable.
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>>>>>>> Never had such problem with any version of linux i tried. Either 
>>>>>>> stop tweaking options you don't understand or (again) it is an 
>>>>>>> emulator that needs tweaking. BTW, in my terminal, backspace is 
>>>>>>> configured to generate ASCII DEL, and del to escape sequence and 
>>>>>>> I never changed this. So, you probably just configured del to be 
>>>>>>> a backspace.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> What do you define the word 'bug' in software world? In my 
>>>>>> dictionary, bug at least means one thing - it does not work as it 
>>>>>> should to work. Your above comment is like saying - that DEL 
>>>>>> option is the ears of a deaf, don't use it!
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>>>>> Where is the bug here? You configure DEL to be BACKSPACE and 
>>>>> complain that it generates BACKSPACE. Change your setting to 
>>>>> default and it will work as you expect it to work. This option is 
>>>>> probably for compatibility with some terminals, where DEL works as 
>>>>> backspace. If you don't want it to act that way, don't configure 
>>>>> it so.
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>>>> Can you read???????????????? I said:
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>>>> if I set DEL to ASCII DEL
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>>> First, there is no need to shout.
>>> Second, please turn off HTML when you post to this list. In 
>>> Thunderbird composition window, select Options/Format/Plain Text.
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>>> If you look more closely, you can see that ASCII DEL is also 
>>> generated by backspace. For me this means, that if I set Del to the 
>>> same setting as backspace, it will act the same way as backspace. 
>>> Also, you may be surprised, but originally ASCII DEL (and delete 
>>> key) acted as backspace. I don't remember where it was changed, 
>>> probably in MS-DOS. Anyway, there are a lot of hints telling that 
>>> you should not touch that setting at all. In any case this is not a 
>>> bug.
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>> Okay, I like posting in HTML, which is not forbid by law; it's only 
>> the usual custom to post in plain text, I choose not to follow it. If 
>> you can't read it, please ignore me.
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>> ASCII DEL = ASCII 7 and ASCII BS = 8.
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>> Do you mean 7 == 8?
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> 7 is ASCII BEL not DEL. This character produces a bell sound when 
> printed. ASCII DEL is 8 and is synonim of ASCII BS.
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> Concerning HTML: If you search this list you'll find plenty of 
> explanations on why HTML is bad for posting on mailing lists. You will 
> also find some other rules. The most important, however is a practical 
> one: HTML postings are ignored (and in some cases automatically 
> deleted) by many members of the list, especially by those who can 
> actually help you. So, your chance to receive help in this (and most 
> others) mailing list is significantly reduced.
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I was wrong when I said ASCII DEL = 7. It's actually 0x7f (127). May be 
you are right in that historcially DEL is same as BS in *nix world. I 
don't know that. But thanks for replying.

Sorry, I am a stubborn person. I still want to use HTML. If you can show 
me that this list REQUIRES its list members use plain text, I will 
follow the rule.
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