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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Wang, Liqin wrote:

	On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:03:24PM -0500, Wang, Liqin wrote:
	> Could anyone give me some info about whether fedora 2.4.22-1.2199.nptlsmp
	> supports the server with four processors and overall 16 GB RAM? If not,
	> which version should be used?


Thanks for all advices on this issure. I do want to upgrade to a new version, but not sure if this will solve my problem. The current system is not stable. It hungs once a while when it runs a user app which frequently reads and writes files from and into a nfs mounted server. I did another test to run a program which kept allocating memory without releasing them back. After about 3.2 GB mem allocated, the kernel stopped allocating the mem, but it did not kill the program.

You can't allocate more memory than that for one process on 32bit intel arch.


However, the same version of kernel installed in a box with one processor, after running my test program, the kernel automatically killed the program when there is no more memory available to allocate.

2.6 kernel has vastly improved nfs implementation.

Thanks,

you should really consider a newer distro flavor to at least test, or consider rhel 3 es for your multicpu box so that you can get some support on your issues.


wang


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Adding a new hard drive to LVM (Paul Howarth)
   2. RE: tcp/routing question... (bruce)
   3. Re: Disable Middle mouse button? (Tony Nelson)
   4. Re: dump a package list (Arthur Pemberton)
   5. Re: Adding a new hard drive to LVM (Derek Scollon)
   6. Re: Adding a new hard drive to LVM (Derek Scollon)
   7. Re: What repository to choose + kernel backwards
      compatibility (Alexander Dalloz)
   8. Re: How to clear log files? (Alexander Dalloz)
   9. Problem installing eGott on FC 2 (Jon Ingason)
  10. large server (Wang, Liqin)
  11. Re: What repository to choose + kernel backwards
      compatibility (Andy Pieters)
  12. Re: Problem installing eGott on FC 2 (Alexander Dalloz)
  13. Re: large server (Matthew Miller)
  14. Re: large server (Alexander Dalloz)
  15. Re: tcp/routing question... (Felipe Alfaro Solana)
  16. No regression line formulas in Office.org calc (Major Seery)
  17. Re: large server (Andy Pieters)
  18. Re: large server (Matthew Miller)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:10:44 +0100
From: Paul Howarth <paul city-fan org>
Subject: Re: Adding a new hard drive to LVM
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1118171444 13644 421 camel laurel intra city-fan org>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 19:35 +0100, Derek Scollon wrote:
I'm running FC3 and currently have one 300GB SATA drive which looks like this.

Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
                     286285288 239994144  31748708  89% /
/dev/sda1               101086     33733     62134  36% /boot
none                    517796         0    517796   0% /dev/shm

 I've added a second drive today and am following the instructions here...

http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=browse&id=LinuxHints/LogicalVolumeManagement&oldid=LogicalVolumeManagement (section titled "Adding another disk")

...to add this drive to the volume group. I've successfully got as far as step 5 and hit a problem, since trying to unmount that volume group tells me that > / is in use. Trying step 6 warns me that running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem can cause severe damage, at which point I chicken out. Is it safe to skip to s> tep 7 and run resize2fs without unmounting the filesystem first or should I be doing something different?>

This may or may not work, but it's safe and it'll just refuse to do it if it can't:

# ext2online /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00

You don't need to unmount the partition; in fact it won't work if you
do.

This assumes you're using an ext2 or ext3 filesystem.

Paul.
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Paul Howarth <paul city-fan org>



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 12:15:08 -0700
From: "bruce" <bedouglas earthlink net>
Subject: RE: tcp/routing question...
To: "'For users of Fedora Core releases'" <fedora-list redhat com>
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you're a sicccckk dude!!!

funny, but sick!

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bruce wrote:
| which is what i've been driving at...
|
| which i'm also believing is a reasonably good sized market... particularly
| if you can get homeland security to buy into the fact that terrorists are
| making $$$ with phishing/pharming scams!!
|
| you see matt, i've never looked at this as a purely tech issue with the
| underlying protocols... but you need some way for the avg user to
really be
| able to tell.. that the site he's on, is the one he should be on.. in a
| similar vein.. you need to be able to do the same thing from the
server side
| as well...

This reminds me of a Phil Dick short story.  Aliens have been attacking
and eating people on Earth spaceships!  They seem to operate some kind
of mind control once you get close enough to an alien ship, the Earth
folk on the ship just drive right up to the Aliens and pour tomato
ketchup over themselves.

The technical guys back on Earth create an Alien Mind Control detector
and send a guy out on a ship to find some aliens to test it.  Sure
enough he's zooming around and Bruurp!  Bruurp!  Bruuup!!!  the Alien
Mind Control detector starts flashing away and filling the ship with its
hooting.  However our hero is under... yes... Alien Mind Control and as
far as he can tell the detector is reporting he is safe as he drives
right up to the Aliens holding a bowl of salad.

- -Andy
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:15:10 -0400
From: Tony Nelson <tonynelson georgeanelson com>
Subject: Re: Disable Middle mouse button?
To: <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <v04020a01becb96e1ae32 [192 168 123 162]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 3:28 PM +1000 6/7/05, Steffen Kluge wrote:

On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 01:00 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
I've since put everything back and I'm back where I started.

If you want to retain scrolling, but disable middle-button clicking, you could just map button 2 (middle) out of the way.

If you use xmodmap -pp without any re-mappings in place you probably get
something like:

       There are 7 pointer buttons defined.

           Physical        Button
            Button          Code
               1              1
               2              2
               3              3
               4              4
               5              5
               6              6
               7              7>


Swapping button 2 with button 7 (which is unused) should disable middle-click: xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 7 3 4 5 6 2" while retaining wheel functionality. If you're happy with this you can put it into the X init file of your choice.

Cheers
Steffen.

Aha! Thank you, that seems to do the trick. apropos mouse didn't find xmodmap for me because xmodmap talks about "pointers".

Actually, xmodmap says I have only 5 pointer buttons, but I mapped 2 to 7
anyway. :)  I chose to put it into /exc/X11/Xmodmap (seems logical) for
everyone (well, just me, really).


At 3:35 PM +1000 6/7/05, Steffen Kluge wrote:

There are 7 pointer buttons defined.

Sorry for replying to myself, I forgot to add: in case you only see 5 buttons here you need to add an extra (unused) button by increasing the "Buttons" option in the "InputDevice" section in xorg.conf.

I don't seem to have to change that. ____________________________________________________________________ TonyN.:' <mailto:tonynelson georgeanelson com> ' <http://www.georgeanelson.com/>



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:13:33 -0400
From: Arthur Pemberton <dalive flashmail com>
Subject: Re: dump a package list
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <42A5E3CD 4030605 flashmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Eric Persson wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to dump a package list, and then take the list and use
as a package-list-template on a new server?

I've thought about it and I'm unsure if the order of the packages on
the list would matter since, packages in the beginning might depend on
the ones at the end, and if so they would fail to install and give an
even messier dependency problem.

Is a rpm -qa >package_list sufficient? How should I then proceed to
install the packages on the list?


Best regards, Eric

You may want to take a look at Kickstart (included with FC):
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/ch-kickstart2.html



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:40:34 +0100
From: Derek Scollon <mailing lists scotwebsolutions com>
Subject: Re: Adding a new hard drive to LVM
To: Markku Kolkka <markkuk tuubi net>
Cc: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <1716764388 20050607204034 scotwebsolutions com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Derek Scollon kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 7.
kesäkuuta 2005 21:35):
Trying
step 6 warns me that running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem
can cause severe damage, at which point I chicken out. Is it
safe to skip to step 7 and run resize2fs without unmounting
the filesystem first

It's "safe" because resize2fs notices that the filesystem is
mounted and refuses to do anything :-)

or should I be doing something different?

You must boot the system from a rescue CD so that you can work
without mounting your normal root filesystem.

--
 Markku Kolkka
 markku kolkka iki fi


For some reason this didn't work as planned. Booting from the rescue CD came to a final step for either mounting the filesystems or not. Mounting them resulted in not being able to unmount them again (in use) and not mounting them in the first place did not show VolGroup00 in /dev at all. I solved it using the ext2online command.>

--
Derek




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:41:34 +0100
From: Derek Scollon <mailing lists scotwebsolutions com>
Subject: Re: Adding a new hard drive to LVM
To: Paul Howarth <paul city-fan org>
Cc: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <722584532 20050607204134 scotwebsolutions com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 19:35 +0100, Derek Scollon wrote:
I'm running FC3 and currently have one 300GB SATA drive which looks like this.

Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
                     286285288 239994144  31748708  89% /
/dev/sda1               101086     33733     62134  36% /boot
none                    517796         0    517796   0% /dev/shm

 I've added a second drive today and am following the instructions here...

http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?action=browse&id=LinuxHints/LogicalVolumeManagement&oldid=LogicalVolumeManagement
(section titled "Adding another disk")

...to add this drive to the volume group. I've successfully got
as far as step 5 and hit a problem, since trying to unmount that
volume group tells me that / is in use. Trying step 6 warns me that
running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem can cause severe damage, at
which point I chicken out. Is it safe to skip to step 7 and run
resize2fs without unmounting the filesystem first or should I be
doing something different?

This may or may not work, but it's safe and it'll just refuse to do it
if it can't:

# ext2online /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00

You don't need to unmount the partition; in fact it won't work if you
do.

This assumes you're using an ext2 or ext3 filesystem.

Paul.
--
Paul Howarth <paul city-fan org>


This worked perfectly, thanks. Churned away on the hard drives for 5 minutes or so and ended up with one volume 44% full, as expected.

--
Derek



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:44:33 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists uni-x org>
Subject: Re: What repository to choose + kernel backwards
	compatibility
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1118173473 18979 81 camel serendipity dogma lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Am Di, den 07.06.2005 schrieb Andy Pieters um 21:04:

What repository should I shoose for rhn-applet-gui and for up2date?  It keeps
on giving 404 errors right now.

A mirror or more near your location.

Also, where do I set those.

http://www.fedoranews.org/contributors/alexander_dalloz/mirror

On another note, I have a FC3 production server and I am interested in
upgrading its kernel.  However I see that yum 'suggests' a FC4 kernel.  Is it
able to run on FC4?

Sure you did not enable the development repo? Beware to NOT do so! Hope you haven't already populated your server with rawhide/development stuff.

Andy

Alexander


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Message: 8>
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 2> 1:49:35 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists uni-x org>
Subject: Re: How to clear log files?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1118173775 18979 87 camel serendipity dogma lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Am Di, den 07.06.2005 schrieb Frank Chen um 20:57:

How do I clear the log files in /var/log?

Please stop hijacking foreign threads. Means, you are replying to former thread by starting a new topic. You even now double hijacked. Your question and the other one ("initrd question") are part of "Squirrelmail and HTTP". Don't wonder if you get no answers.

Why do you want to "clear" the logs? What do you mean with it? You want
to zero the current log files or throw away the rotated (those with
.<number> suffix)?

You may move the old, rotated logs to a different place. If you really
think you need to empty a current log file, then don't simply delete it
but run "> file.log" to zero it.

Alexander


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:49:58 +0200
From: Jon Ingason <Jon Ingason telia com>
Subject: Problem installing eGott on FC 2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <42A5FA66 3070907 telia com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

I am traying to install eGott on FC 2. I have following:

MySQL-shared-4.1.10-0
MySQL-client-4.1.10-0
MySQL-server-4.1.10-0
MySQL-shared-compat-4.1.10-0
MySQL-devel-4.1.10-0
httpd-2.0.51-2.9
id3lib-3.8.3-1

When I try to install egott-0.1-1.i386.rpm I get unresolved
dependancy:
         libid3-3.8.so.0 needs by egott-0.1-1
         libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 needs by egott-0.1-1

This seems odd, so I try to compile eGott from the source:

[jonsi hobbe egott-0.1]$ ./configure --with-mysql=/usr --prefix=/usr
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
...
...
...
checking mysql.h usability... yes
checking mysql.h presence... yes
checking for mysql.h... yes
checking for mysql_affected_rows in -lmysqlclient... no
configure: error: "mysqlclient library is required"

This seems also odd or is it?

--Jon



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:03:24 -0500
From: "Wang, Liqin" <Wang Liqin mayo edu>
Subject: large server
To: "'fedora-list redhat com'" <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <3BA778EB31BBD711AAE00002B33B604A5631A5 EXCSRV06>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hi,
Could anyone give me some info about whether fedora 2.4.22-1.2199.nptlsmp supports the server with four processors and overall 16 GB RAM? If not, which version should be used?

Thanks,

wang



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:05:38 +0200
From: Andy Pieters <mailings vlaamse-kern com>
Subject: Re: What repository to choose + kernel backwards
	compatibility
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <200506072205 38470 mailings vlaamse-kern com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 21:44, Alexander Dalloz wrote:

Sure you did not enable the development repo? Beware to NOT do so! Hope you haven't already populated your server with rawhide/development> stuff.

No fear there... no automatic updator running on the server.  I always test
updates before applying them on the server.

Thanks for the article.  That explains it really wel.

How about the second part of the question?

Can I run a FC4 kernel on a FC3 box?

Kind regards


Andy

Alexander

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:10:14 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists uni-x org>
Subject: Re: Problem installing eGott on FC 2
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1118175014 18979 95 camel serendipity dogma lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Am Di, den 07.06.2005 schrieb Jon Ingason um 21:49:

I am traying to install eGott on FC 2. I have following:

MySQL-shared-4.1.10-0
MySQL-client-4.1.10-0
MySQL-server-4.1.10-0
MySQL-shared-compat-4.1.10-0
MySQL-devel-4.1.10-0
httpd-2.0.51-2.9
id3lib-3.8.3-1

When I try to install egott-0.1-1.i386.rpm I get unresolved
dependancy:
         libid3-3.8.so.0 needs by egott-0.1-1
         libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 needs by egott-0.1-1

This seems odd, so I try to compile eGott from the source:

Not odd, you just have to understand how RPM works. You have id3lib installed but obviously it does not provide the needed libid3-3.8.so.0, but certainly a different version. You can check yourself with "rpm -ql id3lib". Second, you don't have compat-libstdc++ installed. Learn to use the tools on board: yum provides libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3

[jonsi hobbe egott-0.1]$ ./configure --with-mysql=/usr --prefix=/usr
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
...
...
...
checking mysql.h usability... yes
checking mysql.h presence... yes
checking for mysql.h... yes
checking for mysql_affected_rows in -lmysqlclient... no
configure: error: "mysqlclient library is required"

This seems also odd or is it?

No, not at all. You have to tell configure where it can find libmysqlclient.so.

--Jon

Alexander


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:12:28 -0400
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm mattdm org>
Subject: Re: large server
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <20050607201228 GA22108 jadzia bu edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:03:24PM -0500, Wang, Liqin wrote:
Could anyone give me some info about whether fedora 2.4.22-1.2199.nptlsmp
supports the server with four processors and overall 16 GB RAM? If not,
which version should be used?

I believe we call that a "medium-small server" these days. :)>

Kernel 2.4.22 sounds like Fedora Core 1, which is basically history. I'd
suggest waiting a week and installing Fedora Core 4. Either one should work,
though.

--
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Boston University Linux      ------>                <http://linux.bu.edu/>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:13:18 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists uni-x org>
Subject: Re: large server
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1118175197 18979 99 camel serendipity dogma lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Am Di, den 07.06.2005 schrieb Wang, Liqin um 22:03:

Could anyone give me some info about whether fedora 2.4.22-1.2199.nptlsmp supports the
server with four processors and overall 16 GB RAM? If not, which version should be used?

wang

You better do not use legacy Fedora Core 1 (btw. the named kernel has security issues and there is a newer one by FLP). Wait a few days and install upcoming (Monday 13th) FC4. If you won't handle short lifetime cycles, then you are better by using RHEL4 (or clone).

Alexander


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:13:52 +0200
From: Felipe Alfaro Solana <felipe alfaro gmail com>
Subject: Re: tcp/routing question...
To: bedouglas earthlink net,	For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list redhat com>
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On 6/7/05, bruce <bedouglas earthlink net> wrote:
matt...

if i understand them both, ssl/ipsec are essentially the same thing, ie the
ability to create a secure connection between two points...

No... SSL operates at a higher level in the TCP/IP protocol stack. To be more concrete, SSL is an application-level protocol, whereas IPSec operates at the network level. IPSec can be configured to set up an encrypted and/or authenticated link between two peers, or in tunnel mode, where IP datagrams coming from several client machines get multiplexed, encapsulated, encrypted and/or authenticated, then sent over a "tunnel" over a public IP network to the tunnel endpoint, where the process is reversed and the decapsulated packet delivered to its target.

SSL is an application service, and end-to-end encrypted/authenticated
link between application peers and thus, the protocol or application
must explicitly support it (although there are tricks like using
stunnel). IPSec encrypts/authenticates a whole link (or parts of a
link) and it's application transparent: you can implement an
IPSec-protected link and have SSL-unfriendly or SSL-disabled
applications or protocols get automatic encryption/authentication via
IPSec features.



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 14:33:33 -0600
From: Major Seery <mseery gassep com>
Subject: No regression line formulas in Office.org calc
To: fedora-list redhat com
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I'm new to Linux and am generally impressed, but disappointed that when you >
create an > xy chart in calc, you can plot a regression curve but cannot get
the formula for the curve, as you can with Microsoft Excel or Lotus. Am I
missing something, or does anyone know another Linux program that will do
this? I frequently need this in my work.




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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:46:27 +0200
From: Andy Pieters <mailings vlaamse-kern com>
Subject: Re: large server
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
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On Tuesday 07 June 2005 22:13, Alexander Dalloz wrote:
You better do not use legacy Fedora Core 1 (btw. the named kernel has
security issues and there is a newer one by FLP). Wait a few days and
install upcoming (Monday 13th) FC4.


Without criticising the good work of Fedora, I personally thing it is not a
very good idea to install a new release version on a production server.  Why
not installing Fedora Core 3 which is currently mature.

After a few months it would be small work to upgrade to a more mature Fedora
Core 4

With kind regards


Andy

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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 16:50:19 -0400
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm mattdm org>
Subject: Re: large server
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:46:27PM +0200, Andy Pieters wrote:
You better do not use legacy Fedora Core 1 (btw. the named kernel has
security issues and there is a newer one by FLP). Wait a few days and
install upcoming (Monday 13th) FC4.
Without criticising the good work of Fedora, I personally thing it is not
a very good idea to install a new release version on a production server.
Why not installing Fedora Core 3 which is currently mature.

If you're gonna go with Fedora, might as well go with Fedora Core 4, because it's the current focus of developer attention. If you're concerned about stability of a production server, go CentOS instead.

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