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Re: VOIP with a linksys PAP2



On 6/14/05, Kevin J. Cummings <cummings kjchome homeip net> wrote:
> THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
> > On 6/14/05, Kevin J. Cummings <cummings kjchome homeip net> wrote:
> 
> > I unplugged the wl-330g, turning it off.  then I plugged its power
> > cable in and connected it to the PAP2 with a crossover cable. (it has
> > a power cord and ethernet jack, seperate.)  I played around with the
> > squence, trying the PAP2 with power first and so on, plugging in the
> > crossover cable before the wl-330g's power cable, etc.  the phone was
> > always plugged in.  I used the phone not long ago, so I "know" that
> > the phone works ;)
> >
> > the best I could get were some pretty lights from the PAP2, then a
> > blinking, intermittent light.  no dial-tone from the phone.
> 
> I would think that if it matters at all, you want to cable it all up
> with the power off to both devices.  Then power up the dl-330g, then
> power up the PAP2.  If it works, then it will negotiate an IP address
> with the wl-330g (or through it).  I have no idea if further
> configuration of the PAP2 is then necessary.
> 

yeah, I tried that sequence.


> > this setup is premised on the wl-330g's ability to renegotiate the MAC
> > on the fly?  I don't think it's that smart.  I don't have the source,
> > but I looked into this previously.
> 
> Its not re-nogotiation of the MAC address, but of an IP address to use
> in the network.  IP addresses allow devices to have their packets routed
> via the IP portion of TCP/IP.  MAC addresses only identify the
> underlying hardware of a device.  While the MAC address is encoded into
> your TCP/IP packets, it is not used for routing per se.  It may be used
> by switches or bridges to limit unnecessary traffic on subnets, but does
> not enter into TCP/IP configurations beyond that.
> 
> What *should* occur is that your PAP2 should request an IP address on a
> broadcast to the DHCP server on (or through) the wl-330g.  When it is
> successful, the PAP2 will configure itself much like your eth0 ethernet
> card does in your computer when it is connected instead.  This process
> causes the proper routes to be set up in order that the TCP/IP packets
> are delivered to their intended locations.  If it doesn't work, you
> might have to put a network sniffer on the line to figure out why not
> (which would complicate an intentionally simple hardware setup!).  At
> least if you try this through a Linux computer, you could run some
> sniffing software under Linux and look at the packets at both eth0 and
> eth1, but that would require a fair expertise with TCP/IP to understand
> what's going on....
> 
> It all comes down to the capabilities built-in to the wl-330g, the PAP2,
> and whether or not they will play with each other.  You should be able
> to determine this by reading the manuals that come with each device.
> 
> Sorry that this doesn't plag and play....  If it doesn't its not Linux's
> fault!   B^)
> 

that's it, I'm taking linux back!  what's torvald's phone number?

heh, seriously, I think I found a way around this, or at least a
different problem to solve :)

I got a second computer, ancient celeron, running.  right now it runs
windows 2000.  I could install fedora on this "new" computer, but
that'd mean burning multiple cd's or something.  I might put disc1 on
a cd-rw and just do a minimal install.

anyhow, I figure if I start with networking the two computers, that's
at least, hopefully, an easier job.  hopefully, it will be make it
easier  to set up the VOIP once I've got both computers on the
internet :)

so, I'm going to thank everyone for the help on this thread, and go in
a slightly different direction for the time being.

-Thufir


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