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Is there a web site with this information on it.  Thanks Charlie

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-( (Andoni)
   2. RE: RAID Recovery (Jason Hoffert)
   3. Re: News Reader? (David Cary Hart)
   4. Re: Not very happy with FC4 (Alexander Dalloz)
   5. Anyone gotten Pan newsreader to compile on FC4? (Thomas Cameron)
   6. Re: Intel+FC4 (Jerry DeLisle)
   7. unable to login (korgull)
   8. Problems with accents (Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter)
   9. Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save (mlenz new rr com)
  10. Fedora Core 4 users - having problems with RealPlayer?
      (Ryan Gammon)
  11. Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save (Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter)
  12. Re: ncftpd on fc3 malfunctioning? (kristina clair)
  13. Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-( (Paul Howarth)
  14. Issues with RHGB and broken xorg.conf files (Philip Prindeville)
  15. Re: yum updated grub.conf badly (Matthew Miller)
  16. Re: Any apt repos yet? (Matthew Miller)
  17. Re: NetworkManager, Wireless and Fedora FC4 (Matthew Saltzman)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:07:11 +0100
From: Andoni <andonilist eurokom ie>
Subject: Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-(
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <01df01c5735f$01796ef0$39e1a8c0 HOLODECK>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Same problem. /usr/X11R6/bin needs to be in your PATH.

Try:
$ PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin"
$ startx &> x.output

Also, what is the output of:
$ echo $PATH

Paul.


================
Adding it to path worked and then it tried really hard to startx but then it
crashed out with an error that made me think it may not be using the correct
video driver so I set it back to the Intel Generic but I got the same error
message. This one:

[root localhost ~]# startx

X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-1.906_ELsmp i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-1.667 #1 Tue Nov
2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686
Build Date: 24 March 2005
Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com

        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present

OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.667 (bhcompile tweety build redhat com)
(gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST
2004
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 17 17:21:50 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
Symbol xf86CreateI2CBusRec from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o is unresolved!
Symbol xf86I2CBusInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o
is unresolved!
Agent pid 2780

waiting for X server to shut down

[root localhost ~]#




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:13:27 -0400
From: "Jason Hoffert" <jhoffert dpsolutions com>
Subject: RE: RAID Recovery
To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
	<BBD0018412925A47AB3AA504D457A1494ABBC4 dps-ex-01 dpsolutions com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Thanks! This was actually a simple and straight forward process.
Software RAID may seem fine, but it's awful when you don't know how to
recover from a failure. 

Jason

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From: fedora-list-bounces redhat com
[mailto:fedora-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Nigel Wade
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:20 AM
To: For users of Fedora Core releases
Subject: Re: RAID Recovery

Jason Hoffert wrote:
> I had setup software RAID on my Fedora Core 3 box with 3 RAID1
partition
> sets. Well, one of my SCSI drives failed. I have now replaced the HD,
> and the server is up but how do I rebuild the arrays? I've looked into
> raidtools and it seems with raidhotadd it would be easy, but that's
not
> part of Fedora. Is there any quick and easy command using mdadm that
> will repartition the new drive and re-create my arrays? Can I just
> install raidtools and run their utilities without damaging my
> partitions?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 

You will need to partition the drive manually. But sfdisk makes this
easier 
as the output of sfdisk can be formatted in such a was as to be used as
the 
input to sfdisk to partition a disk. The incantation used to be:

# sfdisk -l -uS -d <existing disk> | sfdisk <new disk>

where <existing disk> is the device of the disk you want to have copied,
and 
<new disk> is that of the new disk you are adding to the system. Don't
get 
them the wrong way around ;-). This is what I have noted down for use on

RH7.3, so check carefully to see if sfdisk has changed.

After you've partitioned the drive, use mdadm to add the partitions to
the 
RAIDs. After you've added the partitions check the status of each RAID
to 
see if it's being re-built on the new disk.


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             University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:13:59 -0400
From: David Cary Hart <Fedora TQMcube com>
Subject: Re: News Reader?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1119028439 5781 2 camel dch TQMcube com>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 18:37 +0200, Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Fr, den 17.06.2005 schrieb Thomas Cameron um 16:19:
> 
> > I know that Pan got dropped in FC4, but what is the preferred
> > replacement?
> > 
> > Thomas
> 
> Hm, i thought to remember someone wanted to maintain Pan within Fedora
> Extras. Is this plan dropped?
> 
> http://dag.wieers.com/packages/pan/
> 
> As an alternate as I think Dag will rebuild it for FC4 soon.
> 
> I like Pan more than Thunderbird's NNTP capabilities.
> 
> Alexander
The best solution IMO is to install leafnode which does all the work
including RegEx filtering. Then you can use Evolution, Knode, T-Bird or
just about anything (I use Evolution since I like the idea of one client
for both).
-- 
      * Eliminate Spam:         http://www.TQMcube.com/spam_trap.htm
      * RBLDNSD HowTo:          http://www.TQMcube.com/rbldnsd.htm
      * Multi-RBL Check:        http://www.TQMcube.com/rblcheck.htm



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:14:11 +0200
From: Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists uni-x org>
Subject: Re: Not very happy with FC4
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1119028451 23545 228 camel serendipity dogma lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Am Fr, den 17.06.2005 schrieb Alexander Volovics um 15:23:

> On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 08:21:47AM -0500, akonstam trinity edu wrote:
>  
> > > 3) Backspace does not work when using vi(m) in xterm (or in mutt
> > >    under xterm). When using vi(m) in gnome-terminal backspace works
> > >    correctly.
>  
> > This is fixed using the bugzilla note you ere referred to 155538
> > Just insert the line: *ttyModes: erase ^?       <-- this is the
backspace
> > before the change.
>  
> > and thes problems are fixed.
> 
> I did this after Alexander Dalloz referred me to the relevant bug
> in bugzilla where this was mentioned and indeed this fixes the
> bug when using vi(m) in an xterm but I still see this curiously
> enough when using vi in mutt in an xterm. So it is 50% fixed for me.
> 
> I will walk through all this again tonight and see what happens.
> 
> Alexander

If you while using vim in mutt enter the command ":fix", does it repair
the backspace behaviour? ":help fixdel" will give you some more helpful
information about "t_kb".

Alexander


-- 
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legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html
Fedora Core 2 GNU/Linux on Athlon with kernel 2.6.11-1.27_FC2smp 
Serendipity 19:07:54 up 24 days, 17:45, load average: 0.19, 0.18, 0.17 
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:16:21 -0500
From: Thomas Cameron <thomas cameron camerontech com>
Subject: Anyone gotten Pan newsreader to compile on FC4?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1119028581 3557 41 camel ml110 camerontech com>
Content-Type: text/plain

I have Thunderbird's news reader interface, so I want to use Pan.  It
seems to fail during installation with an invalid incrementation error.
Anyone know how to get around it?

Thomas



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:17:19 -0700
From: Jerry DeLisle <jvdelisle verizon net>
Subject: Re: Intel+FC4
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <42B3059F 3070709 verizon net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9; format=flowed

Caglar Ulkuderner wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have D865GBF/D865PERC Desktop Board with 1024MB Kingston Ram. I
downloaded 
> DVD and CD iso images. I checked sha1sums everything was ok. I burn DVD
and 
> CD isos. When I tried to boot my computer it gave some errors and did not 
> boot. I tried that DVD and CD an other computer I worked. I tried to boot 
> FC3 in my computer it boot again. I think there is a problem on initrd and

> vmlinux in isolinux directory.
> 
> I will try to merge FC3 isolinux and FC4. And then i will try to make a 
> bootable DVD. Do anybody have an idea about this solution and problem?
> 
> Thanks All
> Caglar Ulkuderner
> System Administrator / Computer Engineer, TUBITAK
> 
I have a similar problem.  There are several bug reports in bugzilla 
now, but no solution yet that I see.  There is going to have to be an 
install patch of some sort, because you can't even get the system up and 
running.  I tried to rpm install an FC3 kernel but it would not go 
because of all the dependencies.  So I am not sure what to do at this 
point.  Maybe i will try a clean install to a separate hard drive and 
see if I can find out more.

Jerry



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:27:08 +0200
From: korgull <korgull home nl>
Subject: unable to login
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <200506171927 09039 korgull home nl>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

I have FC4test3 installed and my mainboard gone funny last week. The
date/time 
ran random by this faulty mainboard and I think this is the reason for my 
trouble now.

I replaced the mainboard with exactly the same type and try to boot
FC4test3. 
This works, but somehow I get an authentication error when trying to log in.

Anyone knows why this error occurs and how I can get back to login in
without 
reinstalling the whole box.

Regards,
Marcel



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:19:24 -0300
From: Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
	<edson richter mgrinformatica com br>
Subject: Problems with accents
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <42B3061C 5060503 mgrinformatica com br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi!

I'm using Fedora Core 3 with every update released until today.

The problem I'm facing is I can't type accent vowels in Quanta Plus 
"visual editing". Recently I discovered I can't type accents in Scribus, 
and they told me it's KDE (or may be Qt) related bug.

I'm using a LANG=pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 so I can support same encoding as 
Windows workstations around here, but I already tryied to use UTF-8 and 
didn't worked too.

My keyboard is ABNT 2, and is working fine for every Gnome app. Either 
KDE apps (like KOffice) work fine. Until today (as far as I can see), 
only Quanta+ and Scribus (that I downloaded srcs and compiled myself) 
doesn't work well.


Someone know what's going on?

Any tip will be greatly appreciated.

-- 
Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
MGR Informatica Ltda.
Fones: 3347-0446 / 9259-2993

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:22:23 -0500
From: mlenz new rr com
Subject: Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save
To: Andrew Overholt <overholt redhat com>,	For users of Fedora Core
	releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <b6cffcb6c282 b6c282b6cffc rdc-kc rr com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I was trying it with the gcc-gcj VM, but I just downloaded the self
extracting jdk from java.sun.com.  I extracted it into /opt and ran
eclipse with 'eclipse -vm /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/bin', and I got an error
saying that it could not find a virtual machine.  I then tried setting
the JAVA_PATH environment variable to the same directory (I don't
remember if that's the right environment variable), and I got the same
error.

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Overholt <overholt redhat com>
Date: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:08 am
Subject: Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save

> In that case, something weird is going on.  You're trying this with 
> anotherJVM (like, for example, Sun's)?  You could try our packages 
> with another
> JVM like so:
> 
> eclipse -vm <path to "java" binary>
> 
> Try a new workspace (and another JVM) like so:
> 
> eclipse -data <path to new workspace> -vm <path to "java" binary>
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:15:19 -0700
From: Ryan Gammon <rgammon real com>
Subject: Fedora Core 4 users - having problems with RealPlayer?
To: "player-dev lists helixcommunity org"
	<player-dev lists helixcommunity org>,
	player-users lists helixcommunity org, fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <42B30527 2010108 real com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Hi all,

I've noticed a number of users in the helix community forums recently 
having trouble installing the player in Fedora Core 4.

The error is along the lines of:

# ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries:
libstdc++.so.5:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


If you experience this error, it means you need to install the 
compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3 package, available from:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/Fedora/RPM
S/compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.fc4.i386.rpm

You can also try out a nightly build of the development version of the 
player from:

http://forms.helixcommunity.org/helix/builds/?category=realplay-current

It links against a newer version of libstdc++ which should be 
fc4-compatible out of the box.

-- 
Ryan Gammon
rgammon real com
Developer for Helix Player
https://player.helixcommunity.org



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:24:59 -0300
From: Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
	<edson richter mgrinformatica com br>
Subject: Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <42B3076B 1030104 mgrinformatica com br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Isn't JAVA_HOME env variable?

Richter

mlenz new rr com escreveu:

>I was trying it with the gcc-gcj VM, but I just downloaded the self
>extracting jdk from java.sun.com.  I extracted it into /opt and ran
>eclipse with 'eclipse -vm /opt/jdk1.5.0_03/bin', and I got an error
>saying that it could not find a virtual machine.  I then tried setting
>the JAVA_PATH environment variable to the same directory (I don't
>remember if that's the right environment variable), and I got the same
>error.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Andrew Overholt <overholt redhat com>
>Date: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:08 am
>Subject: Re: FC4: Eclipse Fails to Save
>
>  
>
>>In that case, something weird is going on.  You're trying this with 
>>anotherJVM (like, for example, Sun's)?  You could try our packages 
>>with another
>>JVM like so:
>>
>>eclipse -vm <path to "java" binary>
>>
>>Try a new workspace (and another JVM) like so:
>>
>>eclipse -data <path to new workspace> -vm <path to "java" binary>
>>
>>Andrew
>>
>>-- 
>>fedora-list mailing list
>>fedora-list redhat com
>>To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
>>
>>    
>>
>
>  
>


-- 
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MGR Informatica Ltda.
Fones: 3347-0446 / 9259-2993

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:25:20 -0400
From: kristina clair <kclair gmail com>
Subject: Re: ncftpd on fc3 malfunctioning?
To: Thomas Cameron <thomas cameron camerontech com>,
	ad+lists uni-x org,	For users of Fedora Core releases
	<fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <dff37527050617102573cacdae mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 6/16/05, Thomas Cameron <thomas cameron camerontech com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 11:35 -0700, kristina clair wrote:
> > On 6/15/05, Alexander Dalloz <ad+lists uni-x org> wrote:
> > > Am Mi, den 15.06.2005 schrieb kristina clair um 19:46:
> > >
> > > > Has anyone else had any problems with some ftp clients and ncftpd on
> > > > fc3?  We upgraded some of our servers from redhat 7.3 to fc3, and
> > > > several popular windows ftp clients encounter connection errors when
> > > > connecting to the fc3 servers, but not to the redhat 7.3 servers.
My
> > > > command-line ftp client works fine for both.
> > >
> > > > Kristina
> > >
> > > Any chance it is a firewalling / iptables problem - you checked that?
> > >
> > > http://www.ncftp.com/ncftpd/doc/faq/trouble.html
> > > -->
> > > Users are unable to login.  How do I diagnose the problem?
> > >
> > > Alexander
> >
> > If it were a firewall problem, shouldn't ALL connections be refused?
> > I'm always able to connect from the command line ftp on my personal
> > computer.
> 
> No - ftp uses two ports, 20 and 21, and it uses tcp and udp on one port
> but not the other (I never can remember which is which, 20 or 21).  So
> unless your iptables rules allow 20/tcp, 20/udp, 21/tcp and 21/udp, you
> might get a funky, incomplete connection that won't allow, say passive
> connections.
> 
> 

Aha!  Thanks for all the help.

So what exactly does ip_conntrack_ftp do?

Kristina



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:27:29 +0100
From: Paul Howarth <paul city-fan org>
Subject: Re: Stuck on run-level 3 :-(
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <42B30801 5070506 city-fan org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Andoni wrote:
> Same problem. /usr/X11R6/bin needs to be in your PATH.
> 
> Try:
> $ PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin"
> $ startx &> x.output
> 
> Also, what is the output of:
> $ echo $PATH
> 
> Paul.
> 
> 
> ================
> Adding it to path worked and then it tried really hard to startx but then
it
> crashed out with an error that made me think it may not be using the
correct
> video driver so I set it back to the Intel Generic but I got the same
error
> message. This one:
> 
> [root localhost ~]# startx
> 
> X Window System Version 6.8.2
> Release Date: 9 February 2005
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-1.906_ELsmp i686 [ELF]
> Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-1.667 #1 Tue
Nov
> 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686
> Build Date: 24 March 2005
> Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com
> 
>         Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
>         to make sure that you have the latest version.
> Module Loader present
> 
> OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.667 (bhcompile tweety build redhat com)
> (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25
EST
> 2004
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 17 17:21:50 2005
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
> Symbol xf86CreateI2CBusRec from module
> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o is unresolved!
> Symbol xf86I2CBusInit from module
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o
> is unresolved!

I believe that symbol should be resolved from 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libi2c.a

Does that file exist?

> Agent pid 2780
> 
> waiting for X server to shut down

Could you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

Are there any interesting-looking error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?

Paul.



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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 11:27:47 -0600
From: Philip Prindeville <philipp enteka com>
Subject: Issues with RHGB and broken xorg.conf files
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <42B30813 2000200 enteka com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I was wondering what would be involved in making
the "graphical boot" procedure more robust....

I was working with a variety of dual-head monitors
trying to get two screens working, and managed to
make a typo in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.

When the system froze up and needed to be rebooted,
of course, I got the "Configuring kernel parameters:"
message and then it hung.

Apparently it tries to start up an X server, fails,
and then... well, that's all she wrote.

This doesn't seem very robust.  Failing to start the
X server shouldn't be a fatal error.  At the very
least, it should kick out an error message (like
"Starting X server [ FAILED ]") and behave as if
$GRAPHICAL=no...  so that one can get into the system
and repair the damage, then restart the X server.

So, as a result, I routinely set GRAPHICAL=no on all
new installs... and will continue to until the boot
process has this Achilles Heel removed.

Am I alone in my thinking?  Doing a scan of various
forums reveals that this is not an uncommon occurrence.

-Philip






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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:32:20 -0400
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm mattdm org>
Subject: Re: yum updated grub.conf badly
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <20050617173220 GA15351 jadzia bu edu>
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 11:00:04AM -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> Previously, this had been caused by
> trying to run an SMP kernel on a hyper-threaded cpu.
> For some evil reason, the SMP kernel was the default.
> Whoever made that decision should be shot.

Rather than resorting to violence, try changing "DEFAULTKERNEL" in
the file </etc/sysconfig/kernel>.


> Editing grub.conf fixed that problem.
> Until I ran yum.

Yum's just doing what it's told. Or rather, it's installing RPMs, and they
do what they're designed to do.

The smp decision was made originally by anaconda, which saw that you have a
system which (it thought) could benefit from using the SMP kernel.


> I suppose I implicitly asked for a kernel update when running yum,
> but even so, it shouldn't make the default something that doesn't work.
> That is evil.

It's beyond good and evil. How was yum or rpm or anything else supposed to
know it didn't work on your particular system?


> In any case, warning: yum can and will replace your grub.conf
> with one that doesn't work.

Sounds like the updated grub.conf actually worked *just fine*.

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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:33:45 -0400
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm mattdm org>
Subject: Re: Any apt repos yet?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 12:45:59PM -0400, Pete Toscano wrote:
> > Install yum-utils (from Extras) and look at the 'yumdownloader' program.
> I guess this still depends on the repo maintainers providing SRPM repos,
> eh?  If my small sample of three extras packages is true, it doesn't
> look like you can d/l any Extras SRPMs, but you can d/l Core SRPMs.

Right. Hmmm; that should get fixed.

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Matthew Miller           mattdm mattdm org        <http://www.mattdm.org/>
Boston University Linux      ------>                <http://linux.bu.edu/>
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:35:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs ces clemson edu>
Subject: Re: NetworkManager, Wireless and Fedora FC4
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Cc: bmoss clemson edu
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, D S wrote:

> On 6/17/05, Ray Hooker <ray hooker gmail com> wrote:
>> One of the biggest pains with the Redhat line is the weak support for
>> wireless (even a very old version of Knoppix automatically detects and
>> sets up cards).  It appears that there is a new app to fix it:
>>
>> http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager

It's been around since FC2 or 3, but it's just starting to get robust 
enough for general use.

>>
>> I also see it referenced in Clemson's HOWTO:
>>
>> http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/nm.shtml
>>
>> I was excited.  I installed FC4 from scratch.  I noticed that
>> NetworkManager was installed but NetworkManager and NetworkManager
>> Dispatcher were not running.  Also noticed that FC4 seems to detect my
>> Aironet PCI in my Thinkpad T42P.  Iwconfig shows it.  It even detected
>> the SSID of my Linksys which temporarily had broadcast set to on.  The
>> problem is that it does not have an address and there is no cool icon
>> on the task bar in GNOME.  I did notice in KDE that there is a applet
>> for Wireless network monitor.
>>
>> **** I WANT TO DO THIS OUT OF BOX and not with hacks as this new tool
>> is supposed to just "work".

The problem is that it's not always the tool you want.  For a fixed, wired
workstation, or especially a server, or a machine with multiple active 
interfaces, it's just not appropriate.

>>
>> So I started the two services (NetworkManager and NetworkManager
>> Dispatcher).  I still see no applet on the task bar nor is it listed
>> in the possible applets.  NetworkManager-Gnome as well as
>> NetworkManager appears to already be installed.  I even did a YUM
>> update (yum install...) just to make sure I had the latest and
>> rebooted.  Still no taskbar icon.  The Clemson help page mentions
>> nm-applet, but I can't seem to find the file, nor am I able to find
>> "Startup Programs tab in the gnome-session-properties application" in
>> the FC4 GNOME menus.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.  Again I want to make so that I use as
>> much built in as possible and avoid other packages and hacks unless
>> needed to support a particular card (e.g, Cisco or Intel Wireless such
>> as IPW2200).. I did look and see that the Cisco ACU appears to be old
>> and may not apply to this particular PCI card.  I am not sure the
>> model as even WindowsXP does not indicate anything more than Aironet
>> PCI.
>>
>> Ray

> Run NetworkManagerInfo

Actually, if this is the tool you want to use permanently, do the 
following (worked for me on FC3):

     Set up to let NM control your network at boot (as root)

 	(1) # /sbin/chkconfig network off
 	(2) # /sbin/chkconfig NetworkManager on

     Start NM to control your network now (as root)

 	(3) # /sbin/service network stop
 	(4) # /sbin/service NetworkManager start

     Start the client (as yourself)

 	(5) $ NetworkManagerInfo  (This should start the scanner icon on
 		the toolber).
 	(6) Follow the clemson.edu instructions for attaching yourself
 		to the network.
 	(7) Log out and select "save current setup".
 	(8) Log back in.  The NM icon should start up.

Yes, I think there should be a menu item to start NetworkManagerInfo. 
Maybe next release...

HTH.

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 		Matthew Saltzman

Clemson University Math Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
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