thanks guys, how can i get some save-able output from top? I can't cut and paste from the output... Duncan Here's some bits... Cpu 66.4% us, 32.9% sy all others on that line are 0.3% or less. X is using VIRT 189m, RES 47m, SHR 6868, %CPU1.0, %MEM 9.3 I can't make much of this output