OT: What's the deal with Ubuntu?

[John Summerfied]

Antonio Olivares wrote:

> 
> 
> I agree with your comments.  Some people have a slow
> conection and cannot/have a very hard time getting the
> packages.  With one cd, you won't have enough.  It is
> better to have at least two DE's one goes down, you
> fall back on the other one.  It is also better to have
> two kernel's or more.  One does not work as you want,
> you fall back on the other one.  KDE is not playing
> nice, you go to GNOME, GNOME does not play nice, you
> go to KDE, also vice versa with xfce.   
> 
> For one thing, Ubuntu in my opinion should not be
> compared with Fedora.  There is no comparison.  Ubuntu
> is a one-size fits all approach to quickly get things
> setup with little or no choice and many great apps
> missing while as Fedora (some complain bloat) has

I think you don't properly understand Ubuntu. ubuntu has (approximately) 
all 13,000 or so packages from Debian ready for users to download. For 
example, these are just an apt-get\ install away.
interchange
ezpublish-src
zope-emarket
phpgroupware-*
pop-before-smtp
teapop
firebird-c64-server
aolserver-nspostgres
gnokii-smsd
plone
freeradius


> mostly everything that you need and yes you have to
> make choices if you are selective, but if you have the
> space do a complete install and then make the choices
> of what you use/need.  Also in my opinion, if you want
> a one-cd, there are already too many distro's on one
> cd[Knoppix, Kanotix, PCLinuxOS, Slax], why reinvent
> the wheel.  Fedora is not for that.  Fedora is a
> full-featured, (complete Operating System).  And as
> previously mentioned some of the above mentioned
> distros are better than Ubuntu in my opinion.  And the
> hype about Ubuntu continues . . . 

I'd not count Knoppix and its ilk as distros, they're 
demonstration/ermergency tools, even those that _can_ be installed. If 
one installs Knoopix, one has a bit of a maintenance mess: some from 
Debian Sarge (testing), some from SID (Still In Development) and some 
from other places.



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