[OT] difference of Scripting and programming

[Jeff Kinz]

Made this an [OT] for Matt Miller's sake.

On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:10:56PM +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
> grumman Fan wrote:
> > On 5/23/05, John Summerfied <debian at herakles.homelinux.org> wrote:
> >>Jeff Kinz wrote:
> >>>This isn't a programming question.  Its a scripting question.
> >>
> >>scripts meet most IT definitions of "program."
> > 
> > So "scripting" is the same thing as "programming"?
> > 
> > "I scripted a new Linux kernel today."
> 
> Scripting is a subset of programming, and nobody suggested otherwise.

Ah, - Thank you Paul, excellent direction to go in.

The confusion between "what is scripting" and "what is programming"
rises from the different levels in the set of activities called 
"programming".

Here is the problems:   We have a domain set called programming which
contains two activity sub-domains; "scripting" and "not scripting".

What do we generally call the activity sub domain of "not scripting"?

In general we call it "programming".  

And people who do "not scripting", (within the domain of programming),
for a living, are very aware of the difference and are careful to
differentiate between the two, because, in general, (Not always, but
generally), programming is much more difficult/complex.

Why do I care:  (and why you should too)

Today one post called using the command line "entering the Kernel".
And another referred to using an editor's search and replace function
as "programming".

Clearing these incorrect usages up is part of what we need to do hear to
help people new to the concepts user their words properly so they can
communicate more clearly and avoid confusion and wasting the time of the
people trying to help them. Thats us, by the way. :)

We all know that spoken languages are vague and imprecise and those
characteristics are usually to our benefit, but we need 
some level of coherent differentiation for different concepts.



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