cursed nvidia fedora my lack of knowledgeness

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

Am Donnerstag, den 10.11.2005, 06:49 -0700 schrieb Christopher A.
Williams:
> On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 09:58 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > [...]
> > And if they don't work for you please file a bug at bugzilla.livna.org.
> > By doing that and help fixing the problems everyone has a benefit of it.
> > > When you upgrade the kernel, follow the same rebuild process. 
> > 
> > Or wait 24 hours after a updated kernel is released -- we normally have
> > updated rpms by that time. We are working on improving that and make the
> > update process automatic with yum in the future.
> 
> Thorsten, I know you guys try hard and I am a dedicated Livna user. I
> also agree that the general user running updates can keep up pretty well
> with just the pre-comiled RPMs. Unfortunately, my experience has been
> that, while sometimes it's less than 24 hours, there have been times
> when it's been quite a bit longer (several days, a week or more).

True. But it is getting better. ;-)

>  And,
> in this particular case, the David was having trouble with both the
> non-presence (at the time)

It was there, but the main server was down. But there were several
mirrors (also posted to this list) that had the rpms.

>  of the pre-compiled RPMs he needed and
> dealing with the problems created by installing via the NVidia provided
> script

That's okay

>  (the one that breaks Mesa & other stuff).

That's the reason why I would not recommend it to users that don't know
what they are breaking -- but that only my opinion.

> I'm not sure you really want people filing Bugzilla tickets every time
> your team misses the intended deadline.

Why not? If they look out for duplicates before that's okay IMHO. We use
bugs ourself to coordinate rebuilding internally so often they are open
already anyway.

>  If you do, let us know. As I
> mentioned, in general, I think you guys do a great job.

Well, there was the mail that described rebuild the srpm. That's okay.
But having one central place for documentations and Step-by-Step guys
would help avoid confusion IMHO. 

We have a documentation already at
http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/kernel-modules.html (normally that
rpm.livna.org, but the server is still down) that's describes the
rebuild-process. If that's not good enough please tell us and/or help
fixing.

>  Perhaps the
> solution is more timely communication and a little re-org on the Livna
> site to make it easier for people to find what they're looking for.

Yeah, that might be a good idea. IMHO a wiki would also be good, but we
can't serve that currently at livna.org. Should we open a external wiki
somewhere?

>  I'd
> be happy to help  [...]

That's great! We really could need some more help. 

-- 
Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora at leemhuis.info>