the proper way to 'yum update' a new 'everything' install of FC4?

[peter kostov]

On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 14:09 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, William Hooper wrote:
> 
> >
> > Mike McCarty wrote:
> > > Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> fair enough.  but in that case, something should be tweaked to deal with
> > >> this since i would still contend that a fresh install should be able to
> > >> be "yum update"d without messing around with anything.
> > >
> > > It sounds like a request that the repositories be kept internally
> > > consistent, and packaged. I agree that one should be able to update an
> > > everything install right out of the box.
> >
> > I don't think holding a kernel update (for the "wide audience")
> > until the external modules (for the "narrow audience") are ready is
> > a good answer. A better answer would be to just install what you
> > need, that way you don't needlessly get tripped up by "narrow
> > audience" issues.  By choosing an "Everything" install you choose to
> > get tripped up by _every_ packaging issue there is, whether you use
> > those packages or not.
> 
> i don't buy that argument.  i suspect many people do an "Everything"
> install simply because:
> 
> 1) disk space is cheap, and
> 
> 2) they're not sure exactly what they want so they'll just put it all
> in to play it safe.

and 
3) they want to explore and learn linux (as me;)

> 
> simply put, the two operations of 1) install everything, and 2) "yum
> update" are common enough that they should just work.  we're not
> talking about obscure, rarely-used actions here.
> 
> rday
> 
> p.s.  i would think that, based on your position that the external
> modules are for the "narrow audience," it would make more sense to
> remove them from the basic install and make them part of "Extras."  if
> you need them, they'd be easy to find.
>