Fwd: [Contributors] Microsoft Windows Is Offically Broken

[Guy Fraser]

On Fri, 2005-30-09 at 21:02 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 17:42, Guy Fraser wrote:
> > > > > Every release of RHL was a 
> > > > > tremendous step forward until 8.0 since then there has been one
> > > > What was wrong?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > It had nothing to do with the 2.6 kernel or frequent updates. It 
> > had to do with dropping support for many of the command line and 
> > applications many people used and wanted to continue using. It 
> > also involved changes to the kernel that made it impossible for 
> > most people to get some of their applications to compile, which 
> > is partly why they were dropped by Red Hat. Unfortunately if 
> > anyone were to build their own kernel, they would then have to 
> > constantly maintain it, whenever security vulnerabilities were 
> > discovered. In any case things broke without warning and no 
> > remedies were provided by Red Hat, the package was just dropped 
> > in the next release. Many of these packages are still maintained 
> > and available on other distributions, contrary to many of the 
> > excuses given at the time.
> > 
> > I can not continue, I feel a rant coming on.
> 
> I can't think of anything offhand that worked on RH7.x that
> doesn't work in Centos3.x.  Elm, maybe...  Examples???
> 
Elm, Pico, Wine, Word Perfect and Gatos Drivers are all I can think of
now. Some of these may have been fixed by now but I have replaced
hardware and started using terminal services to use the programs I
needed to have running in wine. Some of these are available in other
repositories now, but that did not help back then. It also didn't help
how I felt when I was billed for a one year RHN subscription a month
before the announcement that in 6 months RHL 9 would no longer be
supported.

It's a little late to be concerned about this now, the reputation was
damaged quite a while ago. And the arrogant attitudes that caused the
rift, persist to this day. Unless you have pull within RH, I suggest 
you drop the inquisition, all you are doing is reminding me and many
others of problems that upset them from back around that time. If I 
didn't have customers using RH products I would not be here now. I have
moved all our servers to FreeBSD and only keep one FC workstation 
around for testing.