question re list

[kwhiskers]

On 26/10/05, Robert Locke <lists at ralii.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 06:31 -0500, akonstam at trinity.edu wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 11:33:39PM -0600, kwhiskers wrote:
> > > On 25/10/05, Tim <ignored_mailbox at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 19:36 -0600, kwhiskers wrote:
> > > > > I was wondering about the noauto option. I read the documentation,
> but
> > > > > got the impression this refers to automounting at boot. My
> situation
> > > > > is that this device will never be connected at boot, but only
> > > > > connected after the system has already booted up and disconnected
> well
> > > > > before the system ever shuts down. I will try.
> > > >
> > > > Since your message doesn't say anything about how you're using
> noauto, I
> > > > can only give a general reply:
> > > >
> > > > In the /etc/fstab file using a "noauto" option means that it won't
> be
> > > > automatically mounted as the computer boots up.
> > > >
> > > > Without trying out other options, too, you'd need to be root to
> manually
> > > > mount such an entry. Throwing in "user" will allow a user to mount
> > > > something as their own. Using "users", instead, will allow anybody
> to
> > > > mount and dismount it. See the mount and fstab man pages.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have noauto in this context: pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed
> > >
> > > I simply copied it from the cdrecorder, cdrom and floppy lines, as
> they have
> > > the same and also all appear under /media. Not very intelligent, but I
> > > wasn't sure what else to put there, since the 'managed' threw me and I
> was
> > > stumped when lines kept disappearing and then reappearing from fstab.
> I do
> > > get that now, but the ones that reappear aren't the ones that
> disappeared, I
> > > have noticed, so the system must have some overrides stored somewhere
> that
> > > are not the same as the ones I had chosen.
> > >
> > > In any case, I did try auto, but with the other options, as above, but
> when
> > > I plugged the camera in, what I had put into fstab simply disappeared
> and
> > > the old line with noauto reappeared.
> > >
> > > This is not a huge problem, as I said, now that I have spent so much
> time on
> > > it, and have seen that firstly, nobody has any answers, and secondly,
> all
> > > the work I have done and suggestions, both here and on other websites,
> have
> > > had me just going in circles and getting nowhere.
> > >
> > > I can mount manually, which is fine, I guess. I just thought that cds
> mount
> > > themselves when inserted, so why not a camera. I am using the same
> fstab
> > > option that cds have, and they work there.
> > With my camera which uses a usb connection it is automatically mounted
> > . Do not usb devices automount on your machine? auto-mounting that is
> > done to a CD is not the same as auto in your fstab but is handled by
> > the automounter. Look at man automount
> > --
>
> Ummm, no. The automounter/autofs function/service is not the one
> responsible for automatically mounting your CDs on a default
> installation.....
>
> Let me give a shot at this - I did not notice the original post, so
> apologize if I am repeating what you already know....
>
> When something is plugged in to a USB port, some combination of
> hal/udev/hotplug will dynamically load the needed modules to support the
> device. Now one challenge is that it will set the "permissions" on the
> device file based on what user is "logged in" at the time - which
> sometimes throws things off if you are logged in on multiple virtual
> consoles, so you may notice recommendations about manipulating udev rule
> files. In the case of a device that might be mountable, these same
> scripts will add a line to your /etc/fstab - hence the "managed" option.
>
> Now, on to automounting. The automounting is actually a function of the
> graphical environment that you are running typically. You can control
> the automounting function in Gnome by looking under
> "Desktop-Preferences-Removable Drives and Media". I have no idea where
> this is hiding in KDE....
>
> Frankly I am surprised that you are not seeing your camera be
> automatically mounted, though I must admit that it does not create an
> icon on my desktop like a USB memory stick does (which is a whole other
> bugzilla entry). For me, it is configured to launch gthumb to import
> the pictures onto my hard drive after I insert/turn on the camera.
>
> HTH,
>
> --Rob
>
>
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You are onto something there. I don't know where this is hiding in KDE
either. Sometimes I find that booting into gnome, making a setting, and
coming back to kde gets things going right. I will try this when I get home.
Thanks
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