Searching for a pci graphic card under fc4

Klaasjan Brand klaasjan at gmail.com
Mon Sep 5 08:56:44 UTC 2005


On 9/5/05, James Wilkinson <fedora at westexe.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Klaasjan Brand wrote:
> > What do you want to do with it? I don't think xorg supports any pci-only 
> 3d
> > card.
> 
> You'd be surprised. At least until recently, most (stand-alone) consumer
> graphics chips had PCI versions, and I understood that X supported them.


That depends on what you define as "recently". Last year's cards are not 
available in PCI versions. The ATI cards until the Radeon 7500 and nvidia 
until TNT2 are the last ones I've seen. For DRI support maybe the ATI card 
will work. NVidia has dropped support for all pre-geforce cards in their 
latest drivers.

There are too many motherboards out there with nothing faster than PCI.
> They usually have pretty slow on-board 3D graphics, so there is a fair
> market for upgrade cards.


Some newer boards with onboard graphics also have an AGP slot (with 
possibility to switch to the card in an external slot) 

It's supposed to be pretty easy for a basically AGP design to support
> PCI: AGP is essentially fast PCI with some extra memory access features.
> There are other ways to handle those memory accesses (copying data to
> the card and using it from there). AGP cards have to be able to do that
> anyway, so there isn't that much for the designers to do.


Of course, but I guess the market for PCI cards is becoming smaller. 
Besides, the video card market is shifting to PCI express which returns the 
video card to the (upgraded) pci bus making it a lot easier to add extra 
cards.

(The most noticable exception was the Intel 740, if I remember
> correctly. It was introduced shortly after AGP, and was designed to be
> AGP only to make a point).


Nothing wrong with trying to make use of a new standard I guess... It was a 
decent card for the time (and price). Too bad they didn't support DRI then 
(although they did with the follow-up 8xx series).

Klaasjan
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