[Solved - of sorts] CUPS printing problems
Craig White
craigwhite at azapple.com
Mon Apr 24 00:14:58 UTC 2006
On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 19:12 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 23 April 2006 16:31, Jeff Vian wrote:
> >On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 05:24 -0700, Rickey Moore wrote:
> >> Anne Wilson <cannewilson at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Saturday 22 April 2006 03:55, Jeff Vian wrote:
> >> > I can confirm that I was forced to make changes in
> >>
> >> cupsd.conf by hand to
> >>
> >> > allow any thing but the localhost to print to my printers
> >> > by
> >>
> >> cups.
> >>
> >> > Once I set the browse option to allow the other machines
> >> > to
> >>
> >> see the
> >>
> >> > printers, and then set the Allow From option to allow the
> >>
> >> local network
> >>
> >> > to connect I am able to print from other machines on my
> >>
> >> local network.
> >>
> >> > It seems the cups web interface only is designed to
> >>
> >> configure local
> >>
> >> > printing and has no options to set things to allow
> >> > anything
> >>
> >> else on the
> >>
> >> > LAN to use the printer.
> >> >
> >> > This is definitely something that needs to be improved to
> >>
> >> allow new or
> >>
> >> > non-technical users to configure printers for network use,
> >>
> >> not just on
> >>
> >> > the localhost.
> >>
> >> Intrigued by this thread, since I use networked printing all
> >> the time, I tried
> >> to use the cups interface on this box to add another
> >> configuration of my
> >> printer. It appeared to complete, telling me that it had
> >> added the printer.
> >> Checking on the server, I found that no new printer had been
> >> added there.
> >> Wondering if it had merely set up a local configuration to
> >> be piped through,
> >> I decided to try a test print of a photo. The new printer
> >> didn't show up on
> >> the printer list. Then I tried to print a test page, and got
> >> the message
> >> that the target printer doesn't exist.
> >> Way back in 2000, when I worked at RH, I had to come in from the
> >> cold and admit that I couldn't get my GF's printer to work at all.
> >> Toxic SHAME!! I brought the entire system to work, and no one else
> >> could get it to work, and they were the REAL experts!! I finally rpm
> >> -e'd samba. God only knows why or how that came to me to do so...
> >> and then the printer worked. I had beat myself up for over a -year-,
> >> and had come to the conclusion that there was something fundementaly
> >> wrong with me / linux / my system and it was Samba, all along.
> >>
> >> So, you might wish to check out your printer running locally first,
> >> then jump into the networking end. Your message indicates it works
> >> OK on localhost. That's good. Beat on your samba settings, that's
> >> most likely where your permission problem lies. I still shudder to
> >> think about the hell I went through with emails and postings all
> >> over the place just to locally print a page. <shudders> Ric
> >
> >Great idea and I certainly would consider it if I was using samba.
> >However, none of my machines have ever had samba enabled/configured.
> > My network is pure Linux so the samba realm is not needed.
> >
> And I've been using Samba for about 7 years, but never as a printer
> server, none, nada. Cups and ipp have worked for all printer sharing
> and nearly always have. No local configuration required other than to
> look at localhost:631, wait for it to find all the servers printers and
> quit. From that point on, anything I print brings up a requester to
> check if I want to use the default printer, I click ok, and a wee bit
> later I have inky paper on the output tray. And we're being told that
> should be all thats required if the printer is attached to a machine on
> the same subnet.
>
> So my advice is not to get rid of samba, but to take any and all
> references to the printers out of /etc/samba/smb.conf, on all machines,
> then restart samba and see if that helps.
----
rather curious advice from someone who uses smbfs instead of nfs to
share files between Linux systems.
Samba automatically gets/shares cups printers with only minor
adjustments to smb.conf on the cups/samba server. I find using
Windows/Samba based shared printers easier to use than cups shared
printer but I can do either. Samba configuration on a system attempting
to use a remote Windows/Samba based printer is not meaningful.
Craig
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