FC5 - quick yum fix for java plugin?

[Ian Malone]

On 24/04/06, Paul Howarth <paul at city-fan.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 15:28 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:

> > > On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 12:05 -0400, Marc M wrote:

> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any good updated yum locations where I can just grab
> > > > a good file with some updated repo's, that are likely to fix all of
> > > > these dependencies?
> > >

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> That's basically the same article as the one I mentioned earlier from my
> own site (http://www.city-fan.org/tips/JpackageJava). I'm the author.
>
> > While I found it relatively painless I have three comments, the first two
> > are technical:
>
> OK, thanks for the feedback.
>
> > It assumes the user is set up to sudo things like yum, this isn't the
> > default on Fedora, so su - -c"" might be more appropriate.
>
> That's a good point. I'll give that a try. Or maybe write something on
> using sudo and linking to that.
>

Re sudo: while it's nice to have a comprehensive reference, a normal
user is going to give up if they have to follow too many howtos to get
one thing working.  Aside: Possibly some clever way of setting up a
'power user' (someone allowed to sudo stuff like yum) on installation
is needed these days.  Ubuntu has a try at this, but really just replaces
root with one users who can sudo anything.

> > It uses
> > ~/rpmbuild, which is certainly good practice, but doesn't mention that
> > you need a file (~/.rpmmacros I think) set up for this to work.
>
> The article does however tell you how to set up an rpm build
> environment, which covers this.
>

This wasn't in the one I followed, which nicely reinforces your next
point that it's good to have one well maintained reference.  Can't
fault the correct version here.

Anyone with a login on the fedora wiki willing to change the link at
<http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JavaFAQ#head-09b609578b45f636daa3d3e6ed63b61bc0f2d85d>
to the correct one?  This really should be the place to find the correct link.

> > Finally, for simplicity it might be worth having a script which does this
> > all for you.
>
> That's a possibility but a downside of that is that such a script would
> probably end up getting circulated amongst people on mailing lists,
> forums etc., and would then stop working when for instance Sun released
> a new version of Java. Having a URL for a website where up to date
> instructions can be found doesn't suffer from that problem.
>

Makes me wonder whether a fairly simple RPM could be put into
the jpackage repository containing this.  Then you'd yum install
it, type jpackage-build or similar as a normal user and it would do
it for you (probably stopping short of the actual installation though).

Anyway, thanks for writing the guide, it's as clear as these things can
get, and most importantly it actually works.

--
imalone