Fedora Core 5 + WinXP Pro

[Lyvim Xaphir]

On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 12:39 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> 
> >> > What you should always do is give Fedora the first spot, no matter
> >> > what.
> >> 
> >> I don't know what you mean by "first spot",
> >> but your advice sounds like nonsense to me.
> > 
> > Not sure I can make it any clearer.  How many ways are there to
> > say, /dev/hda?  or /dev/sda?  That's why I said /dev/hda or /dev/sda in
> > the first place.  First spot is the first spot.  First drive, and also
> > the first sectors of the hard drive, the prime real estate of the drive
> > where the accesses are faster.
> 
> If you mean, "first partition of the first disk"
> it would be simpler to say that.
> I never heard anyone use the term "top spot" for that.

I'll bet there's alot of stuff you've never heard before.  Like, "hey
you look competent"  or "boy you really know what you're doing with
computers".
> 
> >> Assuming you want to dual-boot Windows and Linux,
> >> it is wiser in my experience to give the first partition to Windows.
> > 
> > Wiser why?  Cause you can't make it work any other way?
> 
> If in fact I couldn't make it work any other way
> that would indeed be a very good reason for doing it.

Well, just because you're not capable doesn't mean everyone else isn't
either.

> 
> > That doesn't 
> > sound like a situation where you're much wiser.  Your limitations are
> > your limitations, not mine.  I've *never installed winblows first in a
> > system, never had any trouble doing it, and I've not seen anything
> > you've said that remotely convinces me your path is wiser.
> 
> Have you actually installed Windows on many machines?
> You will find that it is quite picky about where you install it,
> but first partition on the first disk is the safest choice.

Wow, first it was the "wisest" choice, now it's become the "safest"
choice.  What makes it safe then?  Are the lions, tigers and bears from
the land of oz going to jump out and get me if I continue to install
Fedora in the first spot and winblowz last, like I have for the last 7
or 8 years?

> 
> Also, it is where 99% of people who dual boot have Windows,
> since that is where it will be if you purchase a computer.

You're starting to sound like an M$ paid troll.  FYI: you haven't done a
poll of 99% of dual booters, you haven't been to their houses and oh
yeah, you don't speak for them either, even if you're getting a check to
say that you do.


(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain)

> 
> By contrast, Linux doesn't care where you install it.

Which is why it should be put in the first spot.  Oh scuse me, the
"first partition on the first hard drive".
> 
> >> > You also need to ensure that you have a boot record in place that is
> >> > "factory".. or what I call factory anyway.  This will make it easier
> >> > for Grub to rewrite it.
> >> 
> >> That also sounds like nonsense to me.
> >> I don't think grub cares what is on the MBR.
> > 
> > Yes it does, especially if lilo was there before and you want grub to go
> > there.  I've had to redo the boot sector as described many times in the
> > past to get either lilo or grub to install correctly after other boot
> > loaders had been there.
> 
> Show me in the code where grub looks to see if lilo (or any boot loader)
> is already present on the MBR.
> If you ask grub to install on the MBR that is what it will do.

Not really, there are cases where it will not, as I have already stated.


> 
> -- 
> Timothy Murphy  e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie


LX

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