Seven Percent
Antonio Olivares
olivares14031 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 30 22:05:34 UTC 2006
--- Negative <negativebinomial at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/30/06, Mark Haney <mhaney at ercbroadband.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Andy Green wrote:
> > > Ubuntu:
> > Yeah it's fine. I simply do not like the GNOME
> interface. Not anymore
> > at any rate.
> > >
> > > After this, we come to what I think of as the
> first surprise in our
> > > survey. Gentoo took fourth place with a total of
> 9.6 percent. Gentoo,
> > > to me, is a Linux expert's Linux. I know many
> serious Linux users who
> > > work with Gentoo to better understand Linux, but
> almost no one who
> > > uses it as their first choice for day-to-day
> work.
> > I love Gentoo. It used to be the 'expert's
> linux', but I don't see that
> > as the case now. The new installer is is pretty
> good and they do not
> > advocate a stage 1 install anymore either as it
> doesn't give the
> > performance boost compared to the work involved.
> That said, my kids
> > laptop's and my Mom's desktop all run Gentoo and
> they can handle their
> > systems just fine. My youngest is 7, BTW, and she
> can emerge packages
> > pretty well. I personally find having the
> packages installed in their
> > default locations (at least according to the
> manual), makes life easier
> > on me. Plus I've found the performance boost of
> not having packages
> > compiled for every possibility (within reason) to
> be worth the time of
> > compiling.
> > >
> > > In fifth place, we find Fedora, Red Hat's
> community distribution.
> > > Fedora, while still somewhat popular with 7
> percent of the vote, seems
> > > to have lost some of its charm to users in the
> last year.
> > > ...''
> > I don't see that it's lost it's charm, IMHO. I
> have 13 other servers at
> > home running FC3/4/5 and all my systems here at
> work (barring my laptop)
> > are all FC other than my SGI systems. I much
> prefer FC over Debian
> > across the board. Debian package management has
> always been a PITA,
> > whereas yum and RPM's 'just work'. However, I do
> see two weaknesses in
> > FC. A lack of a LiveCD ( I use these more and
> more to promote linux use
> > in my family) and the fact that it's 5 CD's or a
> DVD to install. Sure
> > Ubuntu has a DVD version, but a good standard
> install is still only one
> > CD the rest you can apt-get. I've never managed
> to get a good base
> > install from one FC CD. The fact I need to insert
> CD 3 for one package
> > is a pet peeve of mine, but one I can live with as
> long as I have
> > broadband where I can ftp install from a mirror.
> >
> > All that being said. FC is still the best linux
> version for general
> > desktop use for people who want the 'latest and
> greatest'. Ubuntu is
> > always slightly behind on that for stability's
> sake.
> >
> > Just my $0.02
>
>
> Interesting to see this now. I've recently tried out
> Ubuntu, and liked it
> well enough to put it on another machine. The three
> of the other six
> machines are FC. . I just upgraded two from FC 1 to
> FC 5, and lost sound on
> both, and I have no time now to mess around with it
> -- after all, FC 6 is
> breathing down the neck of what I've got.
>
> Anyway, I'm on the fence. As I get used to the where
> Ubuntu puts things, I
> may continue switching. I may even drop the Red Hat
> subscription. It's an
> expensive proposition that amounts to getting emails
> about updates rather
> than having to remember to run yum every week. It's
> nice to have them keep
> upgrading stuff, but the software still goes out of
> date -- what verson of
> java? what version of python?
>
> As far as FC, I know all that Red Hat says about the
> bleeding edge, but I
> have to work at some other things besides upgrades.
> Tonight I'm going to
> watch a movie. I'm not going to fix sound on an old
> Micron.
>
> FC changes too fast, and RH costs too much.
>
> There's my 2 cnts, too.
>
>
> --
> > Ceterum censeo, Carthago delenda est.
> >
> > Mark Haney
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > ERC Broadband
> > (828) 350-2415
> >
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Fedora People are working very hard to make this live
cd. As a matter of fact, distrowatch has announced
the availability of some live cd's
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03666#0
Regards,
Antonio
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