nvidia vs kmod-nvidia

[Hadders]

Jim Cornette wrote:
> Hadders wrote:
>
>> I guess nvidia have done the easiest thing they can, which is provide 
>> a base and let the fanatics do what they will.
>>
>
> Of course releasing specs for those developing upstream projects would 
> trickle down to all distribution variations by those that compile the 
> programs that are based on the upstream kernel and GUI developers 
> efforts.
>
> There is nothing fanatical about not purchasing products that do not 
> taylor to assuring or at least giving  effort that their product will 
> not fry or cause instability on any user's system.
>
> I have the card because it was in the junkpile for parts I was given 
> by another person. The funny thing is that I got rid of a prior nvidia 
> card because of the lack of 3D OSS drivers available.
>
> Anyway, nouveau (OSS 3D driver under development), the 2D nv driver 
> included with the GUI, the scripted binary driver with a hook or not 
> use any of the products that they sell with no intention to assure 
> users that they work without disrupting an otherwise stable system.
>
> Fanatical, rational or principled doesn't really matter. The driver is 
> closed source from the supplier. You can do whatever you choose. The 
> question was mainly why one form of the driver is better than the 
> other. The posting that referenced Mike's feedback on the difference 
> was pretty much what I tried to convey. I think the content was close, 
> but the wording totally different.
>
> Some kernel developers, one not currently working for Red Hat have 
> commented regarding the effects of NoSourceDrivers and bug reports. 
> Without the source, how can one determine reliably what is happening 
> when the binary driver does bad things with otherwise stable systems.
>
> Jim
>
My choice of the word "fanatic" was misplaced, "enthusiast" would be better.

Yeah, I could imagine the frustration of trying to debug something 
without the source. You'd go nowhere fast and everything would be guess 
work based on observation.

I guess my frustration comes in the fact as an end user to some extent. 
I'm just trying to get this working and would prefer to not have to jump 
through hoops. Of course, I will be the first to admit that I've made 
this hard for myself with my current hardware config.  Otherwise, it 
would be as simple as a yum update from livna.