hi folks, this list has informed me of the error of my ways installing rpm's directly and not using yum. however, i installed everything and i see no yum as the root user. what else am i missing? tia, jackc... -- Jack Craig XPath/SAS Team Brocade Communications Systems, Inc. 1600 Technology Dr. San Jose, CA 95110 408.333.7478 Direct E-mail: jcraig at brocade.com