Fedora Core 3 Transferred to Fedora Legacy

[Hans Kristian Rosbach]

On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 22:34 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
> 
> >>Nobody stopped anyone from doing the work involved. In fact it was
> >>already done before. http://fedora.isphuset.no/
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >We ARE well aware of that.  As stated above, I have the cd's already 
> >burnt.  But when asking a question and disclosing that the question 
> >involves the unofficial 4.2 release, then the question was summarily 
> >ignored, as being off topic I guess.  If you are not willing to even 
> >discuss something someone has done in the interests of widening the 
> >usage, then the whole thing is moot, and we are wasting our collective 
> >time with this endeavor called a foundation.
> >
> >You should have welcomed that effort with open arms, and actively 
> >pointed folks having trouble with _your_ release to that one as a 
> >possible solution to the install debacle 4 was.
> >
> I repeatedly wrote the the people who did it with no responses. We 
> needed to work on several details before adopting such efforts in a 
> formal way.

See my previous private response on this one.

As mentioned I only recieved one mail from you, and it was rather
unclear about your intentions. Seeing as it looked a lot like the
other "Thanks" and "you should do this" mail I dismissed it as that.
If there were more I cannot see that I have received any.

> >I'm of the opinion that fedora folks themselves should have done the 
> >respin as you call it, within 3-4 days time when it became obvious that 
> >4 was a wholesale x crasher that trashed the disks as it went away.  
> >The take it or leave it attitude has the distinct odor of hydrogen 
> >sulfide about it.

I myself tried to contact redhat people on a few occations, but never
got any responses either. I guessed redhat is a big organization and
had no time for little me.

What really irritated me was that the installer problems never saw
any updates in FC4. What I mean is that anaconda never got fixed.
I got several mail telling me to "atleast fix the anaconda problems"
but due to legalese I did not dare to deviate from the standard
FC4/FC4-updates packages.

The two most prominent problems that also exist in FC4.2:
1. Swap label garbage
2. Installer cd won't boot unless you feed it garbage.

Inquires about whether the kernel sitting in updates-testing for weeks
will get released within the next few week or so went unanswered.
Resulting in a brand new kernel just a few days after FC4.2 release.
(2.6.13* -> 2.6.14* jump)

> If you mean Red Hat needs to do all the work then that does not make it 
> a community effort. Other folks contributing does. Luckily someone just 
> did that and if see the fedora-devel list discussion you could have seen 
> me, Warren etc welcoming that effort wholeheartedly. Unfortunately 
> subsequent communication has been stalled due to non responses. We 
> cannot collaborate more since this require changes in the trademark 
> guidelines and other technical details to be worked out. We are looking 
> for more community input on different use cases that help us modify the 
> guidelines to support such needs. If you provide that, do email gdk AT 
> fedoraproject.org

Fixing anaconda sounds to me like a community benefit.
I assume it was not fixed because RH and FC4 itself didn't need it.
Had it been *insert other community distro of choice here* it would have
been maintained and updated like any other package.

> >To me thats ignoreing any 'community effort', and quite frankly I'm less 
> >than impressed with this newfound selling of the word community, when 
> >its been rather pointedly ignored until now.
> >  
> New found? I remember the original announcements mentioning this idea.
> 
> >If you want it to be a community effort, then its time a hell of a lot 
> >more credit was given to those that have contributed.
> >  
> >
> But we did. We welcomed it several times

What *I* read was several thanks from *redhat.com ppls that seemed to
be from the persons, not company. IE: I didn't see them as official.

-HK