DejaVu fonts - Not 108% - Feedback.

[Albert Graham]

The bottom line for me is I cannot use this font, because it lets subtle 
differences slip by me, I sit about 1 arms length from my 21in CRT 
monitor (as I have done for the last 25 years) and I just never had a 
problem before now.

I understand that technically you  have to do things "technically 
correct" but, I'm a human, not a text scanner and that should be taken 
into consideration. It really sounds to me like this is a case of the 
"specifications" rather then actual real world which we all live in.

I suggest that you enable it as default in FC6 as  you plan, but I 
reckon it'll be complete gone by FC7, because this forum is going to be 
full of support requests that result in "Oh that's a typo, you idiot" 
responses to the unaware.

Apart from this one show stopper (for me), I really do like the font.

Albert.


Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le vendredi 14 juillet 2006 à 13:02 -0400, Tony Nelson a écrit :
>   
>> At 4:05 PM +0200 7/14/06, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> The slash is there to distinguish between O and 0 in the monospace font.
>>> It's an explicit requirement for a font which may be used in terminals,
>>> software IDEs and other technical contexts.
>>>       
>> oOØ0ø
>>
>> OK, which are which?
>>     
>
> As the small attached shot DejaVu Mono perfectly distinguishes between
> your variations (as Vera did BTW)
>
>   
>> It's well known already that slash does not distinguish between Oh and
>> Zero, because of the Slashed Oh (U+00D8 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE)
>> used in Europe.
>>     
>
> Which is why Vera uses a dot
>
>   
>>> In non-monospace families it's possible to get without it, since O is
>>> then wider than 0. In monospace it's the only possible choice.
>>>       
>> It's not the only possible choice.  My hack has been to put a dot in the
>> upper-right of a Zero.
>>     
>
> And how well does this play with 0xAE and others O-with-diatrics glyphs?
> (ignoring for a while computer convention has long been to disambiguate
> 0 by putting something in its middle)
>
>   
>> Keep on trying.  If a Zero looks like an Oh, at least people know to watch
>> out, but if it looks like a Slashed Oh or Eight, then they're just going to
>> be misled.
>>     
>
> It does not look one bit like an 8 on my screen so I suspect bad
> configuration on the user side, no knowledge of usual 0 presentation in
> technical fonts, too little time spent with DejaVu Mono to train its
> eyes, or some mix of all these causes.
>
> The basic latin part of Vera Sans Mono (which DejaVu Sans Mono) inherits
> has been audited to death by all the Gnome, Xorg and Freedesktop
> developers precisely to disambiguate 0O, lI1 and other combos font
> usually do bad (precisely because most hackers use a mono variant as
> their primary font). Nothing is perfect, so it can certainly be
> perfected, but its current level is pretty good.
>
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