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Re: From release notes for FC5T3 (web)



Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Jim Cornette wrote:


I found the information from the links understandable to a certain degree. I'm glad that the finished documentation is in a style that I'm more familiar with.

yes, if you find any issues about the published release notes available at http://fedora.redhat.com/docs, kindly use the feedback section and bugzilla to report them.

I'll look it over and report problems if any noticed via bugzilla.



I believe there was a short conversation and off to bugzilla it was. (Less than 5 postings, from memory.) Hopefully, the packages that I want to be selectable are there now on the installer. I believe my desired packages are on the wish list for Extras migration. (Mozilla/Seamonkey)

The plan is to build the packages that require the gecko browser engine against Firefox or XULrunner and move Mozilla suite/Seamonkey to Fedora Extras. Seamonkey is already under review in Fedora Extras, FYI.

Moving the suite over to Fedora Extras is no distraction to me. I caught the message that it will soon be heading away from core. The other point that Seamonkey is more actively developed caught my attention from short threads in the fedora-development list discussing replacing mozilla with seamonkey. I am using the tarball installer version of seamonkey and like it over firefox, mozilla. As soon as it is packaged in rpm, I will install it from wherever it lands.




https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=174244

Has been marked as fixed in rawhide.

With the effort to enhance the installer to be able to handle these missed selections, I hope the installer is more pleasant to deal with for flexibility to grab the previously missed packages from the menus within the installer.


Kickstart @everything option as well as the comps package has been fixed to let the user install everything in the CD/DVD if required.

This sounds like a decent option. My favorite applications depart somewhat from the default choices. I hope the added flexibility works to cover most situations.

This should be a pretty rare requirement especially for new users
since everything installation in previous releases didnt actually
include all the packages and does not include Fedora Extras or other
repositories and has multiple languages and other redundant
functionality that has maintenance, performance and potential
security issues.

I don't mind redundancy for applications. I setup one browser for certain tasks and certain favorites, another for more commonly used links and tasks. I rarely use evolution, konquerer, kedit or kmail, but am glad to have the programs at hand. Redundant applications are not really redundant, some supposedly redundant applications excel in one usage while others excel in other features. Having many different pdf readers, graphics programs, browsers and the like is how I want my system to be.

Regarding language packages, I needed to remove the extra language packages from several applications. This was not impossible, but took a little ingenuity. Security issues should be set with rational defaults where services that can decrease security need to be manually activated to install. I hope that security issues are dealt with regardless to whether one has a fully loaded arsenal of packages or a limited installation. I vaguely recall one program that even if it was not set active, the default password was set to something like Q and would hinder security on a Linux install. I do not recall what the program was though. Your point that having a package with dangerous capabilities does hold water for this previous problem with older installs. One could hack in and have the tools they need in order to command ones computer.

Jim


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