On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 14:42 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 14:19, Tony Heaton wrote: > > > many packages that I use everyday aren't gui and aren't in any menu on > > any desktop. Yum info describes all packages, not just gui ones. > > But those are packages, not programs. As an example, a lot of > people might find the 'convert' program useful if they read > it's man page. The output of 'yum search convert' is more than > anyone wants to see and not really useful. How are you supposed > to guess the 'yum info ImageMagick' invocation that you'd need > if you don't have the convert man page on line. You don't have to know the package name to use yum info. As I stated in an email yesterday, I do 'yum info > packageinfo'. Then I actually read the descriptions of the programs in the packageinfo file this command creates. Having a computer and wanting to discover new packages and programs to make your life better/easier means you might have to do a little research and reading. How did you find out about the convert program? I don't imagine that your fingers just magically typed man convert one day. You had to find the program somehow. There are plenty of ways to find out about new and exciting methods of doing things. Having a program installed doesn't make discovering it any easier. You still have to find the program first by searching menus, browsing directories. You can read the yum info just as easy. If your looking for an specific type of program, a grep of the yum info file can usually get you started on which descriptions to read first. This kind of got off track a bit. I think if people want everything installed they should be able to install everything possible. I don't think it is necessary to have an everything button to accomplish though. There are many ways to accomplish getting almost everything installed. I say almost everything, because I'm sure you can't have every piece of software in the distribution installed without causing some grief to other pieces. I would bet if you came up with a way to have any almost everything button that would not break things you could get it accepted. I may be naive in that respect. I've never tried to get anything accepted in Fedora. If developers are removing the everything button on a whim without any technical reason for its removal, then that is just wrong. > > -- > Les Mikesell > lesmikesell gmail com > > -- Tony Heaton CCN-9 (505)667-9015 Pager (505)996-3184 theaton lanl gov - "If you do nothing, they'll win"
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